Would past fighters be considered journeymen under today's boxing standards?

The Spanish David Price?

Yeah, worldbeaters. If offense was not included in factoring wins, Bugner would have been a great.

A 100 year old Liston who fought one fight in the decade surely deserves a mention.

I guess if you can beat Terry Daniels, you are amazing.

His best heavyweight scalp in the 70's was a sub-500 Roy Wallace. Lionel Butler had beter wins.

Fought 3 times in the 70's and retired.

Beat absolutely no one of note in the 70's.

That whittles down your Magic 20... and I was being kind.

My point being... The heavyweight division is almost always shallow on elite talent... even in the Golden Era's, such few as there are, it dissipates quickly.

 

Do you realize I was responding to a list that included ****ey in the same era as Liston and Patterson? If we're playing by those rules, everyone I listed was relevant in the 90s so it's completely valid.

 

He also named Patterson. He also named ****ey. You don't have to be in your peak to be relevant in an era. Everyone I named put in work during the 90s.

 

You didn't actually have a point ,you've made the same, or very similar post a couple of times now and each time it has had no relevance to the threads. They were all rated in the 70's .

 

****ey was rated in the 70's so was Liston.

 

And everyone I included was rated in the 90s.

 

I never commented on your post:huh

 

Well, everyone was jumping on my 90s list for doing it the same way as your list.

 

its complete speculation that the new timers would adapt to the abilities of th old timers too.

 

No, it has every bit of relevance in proving that guys who were journeyman level were rated in the greatest of eras. Is that so hard to comprehend?

 

Oh you are giving me lessons in comprehension now? F*ck me ,why don't you include a couple of unnecessarily long adjectives like you usually do to illustrate your erudition?
P*ss off pr*ck!

 

True.

 

Doubtful.. He lost to Leotis Martin in 1969 and died in 1970.

 

Agreed

 

I still want to grab a drink with you.