Would PBF have beaten a Prime DLH?

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  1. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Sturm was clear the other 2 are arguable but you maybe right
     
  2. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I take it floyd is your favorite fighter but i got a question for you, how come floyd never unified a division ?

    He just seemed to move up and get a shot at the wbc champ everytime. without earning it except at 140 when he fought 2 eliminators. Even then who did he fight Gatti :patsch Who won a vacant title and everyone knows the true champ at 140 tszyu who made 7 successful defences of the green and gold strap.

    Floyd was never the man at 140 at 147 he fought a shot to peices mitchell and 2 hit wonder baldo who ud zab and stopped by now an even more shot gatti. Then he beats odh on a split and he was far from prime, and hatton who is proven isn't that great at 147 and also hasnt looked the same since the tszyu fight.

    So how do you make him top 30 atg :huh lets see your top 30 :good

    Im not knocking pbf he is a great fighter to watch (sometimes) but he sidestepped challenges and failed to unify and for me that hurts his legacy. :good
     
  3. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    What about Oscar, he ducked Tito until he couldn't duck him any more. He ignored Vernon Forrest. He ignored Winky Wright. He is ignoring Santos and Margarito now. Oscar would be in the same boat as Floyd, going by your criteria.
     
  4. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mate im not saying dlh is an atg top 30 :lol: im not even a oscar fan
     
  5. DINAMITA

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    Awful post. Look at the amount of great fighters on Oscar's resume, then look at the amount on Floyd's. It simply cannot be denied that Oscar has fought far better competition. That is a plain fact, no matter what criteria you or anyone else uses.
     
  6. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Take off the great names he fought in their prime and Oscar has a lesser list, and they are all loses.
     
  7. Spitbucket

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    :lol:
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fair post!:good
    I have a question for you how many boxers in history have moved up 5 classes and have unified all 5? Unification is something very hard to accomplish in today's boxing world. Promoters, networks and sanctioning bodies make this very difficult to do.

    PBF was linear in three classes and has always had the goal of facing the man and beating the man in every division he's been in. He did that with G.Hernandez at 130 he did it at 135 with JLC 2x he would have done it with Zoo but he was a showtime fighter and PBF was a HBO fighter once again like I said earlier networks getting in the way, He would have fought Hatton at 140 but Hatton turned him down so it's not PBF's fault. He fought the man at 147 regardless of your opinion of Baldo he ws the champ. He didn't fight the champ at 154 because Winky left he fought the second best there in Oscar for his first fight there at a weight he had no business at.

    As you can see quite an illustrious career arguably the GOAT at 130 5 classes by the age of 30 great resume best defensive fighter of his era with no known weakness and beat 95% of his opponents with ease and a great H2H fighter that's why I say he's a top 30 ATG and only behind RJJ as the best fighter of his era.
     
  9. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Sorry you got me. :) I mean take off the great names he fought out of their prime.
     
  10. heidegger

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    Floyd would find a way to win.
     
  11. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've very conceivable that Floyd could have beaten Oscar at that weight. He beat Oscar when everything was in De la's favor at a weight he had no businesss at.
     
  12. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    absolutely...pbf is no 21 year old either...he is a better boxer than DLH there is no question about it
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Just look at the two at their best @ 147. If repeating a resumes of what a fighter did when MUCH SMALLER is all you can do, then STFU. Put a valid argument BASED on the the DLH who was in his prime @ 147. ****....so many or you Mayweather fanboys think just repeating the same thing over and over about HIS resume and fights vs. guys is a valid argument shows just how serious you should be taken. And I doubt you teenyboppers were even watching boxing or DLH back in 2000.
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Typical example of just repeating his resume as if that's an answer. That's all you do Pimp C. As if his resume is the answer to all. :patsch
     
  15. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Lmao. I love all the morons saying that Floyd barely beat Oscar. Probably the same morons that think Whitaker got a draw against Chavez

    Listen up. Oscar struggled to land anything in the fight. Floyd landed the cleaner more precise blows. Including the most devastating punch of night and one of the most well executed ever. In the 5th where Oscar can in to do his little pitter pat rally nonsense he was doing during the fight and Floyd caught him with to clean right hands out of the shoulder roll, which nearly dropped Oscar.

    Floyd won the fight clearly 8-4 and virtually cruised the last 5 rounds. Anyone that thinks Oscar won needs to give up watching boxing, and maybe judge cheerleading.

    Lastly, as for prime for prime. It would be close. But I'd have to lean towards Floyd at 147.