Would Peak Joe Frazier take down Lennox Lewis?

Lewis beat Tua?Just boxed from the distance because he was afraid to trade.
He destroyed old Aids Morrison and old Tyson and need too many rounds to do that.
FOTC Frazier is much better than both of them.
Also I pick FOTC Frazier over Holyfield and Holyfield also went distance and won one fight.

How do you know?
Did Mercer ever faced Foreman and did he ever went few 15 rounders?
And how he had better chin?

 

Well considering he has an official win over Tua and won all 12 rounds easily, so yeah i would say that is beating an opponent.

You can criticize Lewis's performance over Tua or try and discredit his win over Morrison all you want. I'm not really sure how Lewis beating both Morrison, Tua, easily. Makes him less favourable over Frazier, again i'm not really sure what point you're trying to make.

No Holyfield didn't win one fight he got a gift draw, and lost the 2nd fight vs Lewis lets not recreate history.

Because Mercer is widely recognized amongst boxing fans to have one of the best chins, he's been in with punchers and soaked up their shots the evidence is there for all to see. And again Mercer troubled Lewis with the jab a weapon Frazier wouldn't be effective with against Lewis. Styles makes fight and the bobbing and weaving style of Frazier, i don't think would be effective against the much bigger Lewis, who also has a great uppercut which is perfect weapon against the smaller Frazier.

 

Exactly!!!! Lennox came in against Rahman & McCall complacent & un focussedHeck for Rahman he was making the movie Oceans Eleven & partying with Clooney & Pitt & not seriously training plus he was lategetting to S Africa to acclimate The rematches showed the real Lewis. A focused Lennox Lewis would have gone through his record undefeated

 

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Tua and Morrison were not Joe Frazier. Comparing either of them to Joe is laughable. The only thing in common they had was a lethal left hook.

There has never been a pressure fighting heavy like Joe. And certainly no one comes close to a peak Frazier on Lewis’s resume. Frazier is arguably the greatest swarmer of all time.

 

Making that 15 second scene in Ocean’s 11. Ok, that’s plausible I guess.

What was his excuse against McCall?

 

No one is comparing Morrison, Tua, to Frazier read my post again. The poster who i'm replying to is criticizing Lewis for his performance against Tua. And then he's saying well "Frazier is better than Tua and Morrison". But what i don't understand about his argument, is that Lewis fought 18 rounds against Tua and Morrison and didn't lose a single round, so why bring up them fights to try and make a case for Frazier ? when Lewis won both fights very easily ? that doesn't make much sense to me.

And lastly Frazier being a great swarmer wouldn't help his case against a Super Heavyweight with crushing power like Lewis.

 

Aye welcome back young fella, good to have you about.

 

I doubt Lewis could KO Frazier. Joe's chin was too tough. Even if Lennox knocks him down he probably doesn't finish Joe. Frazier was dirt tough. Lennox would have to have Foreman's mentality (a nut) to be that aggressive and take that many chances himself. Lennox wasn't built that way.

He would press an advantage then go back to boxing. Lewis would most likely control the distance. Use his jab and if he lands his right Frazier has to respect it. With the time and room to box Lennox Lewis wins a decision. Perhaps with a knockdown.

 

No there were not, but they hit harder the Frazier did for sure, which means they have a better puncher's chance the one or two punch variety, not the grind him down version which used to win his most famous matches. If you think Frazier would fight Lewis the way he fought Bugner or Mathis, the two large heavies where Frazier took win while to win ( and Mathis was in the lead after six rounds on the cards ) without Lewis landing anything significant, I think that's does not fit within his performances vs. bigger men...and Bugner and Mathis were not close the Lewis in the power or skills.

 

I agree with your point but on the flipside Frazier never faced anyone as big and skilled as Lewis..Lennox was a master at controlling distance, he was sharp with that right hand. Joe Frazier had one of the best chins/hearts/determination bit he would still have to respect that right of Lewis.

 

Tua may of had more one shot power than Frazier but saying that Morrison did is highly questionable. If Tommy did hit as hard as Joe it would only be for 3 rounds or so. After that Morrison couldn't bust a grape.
In 7th, 8th or the 10th round Joe Frazier hit much harder.

 

Actually after sampling a couple of Lewis' right hands Tua elected to just survive.

Lewis is 6 '5" with an 84 inch reach Tua 5'10"with a 70 inch reach.

In your opinion how differently should Lewis have fought Tua?

Which different tactics would give him the best chance of victory?

Which would have made his win easier without any risk than it actually was?

• "Lewis outboxes, outclasses Tua" Associated Press, November 11, 2000
• "Lewis Toys With Tua And Wins In Decision" By Dave Anderson, New York Times, November 12, 2000

 

If he was surviving why Lewis was boxing and not trading?
Frazier has better reach and speed than Tua.
Also better defense.
Frazier unlike Tua would also not be afraid to trade because he is fearless.