Would Pete Herman make your top ten Bantams?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Or not?

    Do his 14 losses trouble you? How many of them are you willing to write off due to his oncoming blindness?

    His resume is not to bad, he's got Scanlon, Burns, Wallace, Soldberg, McHugh, Lynch and, of course, Jimmy Wilde.

    Jimmy Wilde was the beggining of the second astonishing chapter of Herman's career, near-breaking the huge-hearted past-prime Wilde on a stoppage in the 17th, having just lost his title. He would go on to regain that title from the man who bestted him, Joe Lynch, although even a single defence was beyond him.

    So a two-time bantamweight champion back when that meant something, a two-handed brawler on the inside seen even in those days as a bit of a specialist body-puncher, he could also box on the outside. He also had power, dropping men that had never been down before and stopping men with world class punch resistance.

    What you think?


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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    McGrain, Ihonestly do not know enough about him to rank him, but Bantamweight is a very deep and competitive division witht he info you have giving I think he would just miss out.

    Something like this

    1. Jofre
    2. Dixon
    3. Olivares
    4. Zarate
    5. Brown
    6. Rose
    7. Ortiz
    8. Harada
    9. Carruthers
    10. Canizalez

    (although tenth could go to alot of people)
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think Herman beat better fighters than Canizales. Also, he was the undisputed champion, twice no less.

    I say he is above Orlando.

    And certianly in the mix for that tenth spot.

    But fair enough.
     
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  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    McGrain my memory has gone blank there are alot more deserving guys than Canizalez there I just completly forgot everyones name. Before i posted it I had Terry McGovern written down as 'that old guy who was good'

    I just cant think right now.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    :rofl
     
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  6. Flea Man

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    Paterson; where dya rank Pintor?
     
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  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Dont have a clue right now. My minds gone mince. He would be up there 10-15 kinda area with Herman etc...
     
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  8. McGrain

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    :lol:
     
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  9. Flea Man

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    I don't know about above Herman, strange as I consider myself somewhat of a Bantamweight aficionado. I'ma research some more :good

    One thing i'd like to ask while we're on the subject of Bantams; I know there's no footage of Escobar, but what about Panama Al Brown?
     
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  10. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there was some brown on youtube but i can't find it now.
     
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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    theres afew fights of Brown
     
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  12. Flea Man

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    Good to hear :good
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Anyone? Just GP with an answer?
     
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  14. asero

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    no question

    easily top 6 in accomplishment and top 8 in ability
     
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  15. Sweet Pea

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    He's on the cusp, not sure if he'd break the top 10, though. A lot of competition at the weight:

    Jimmy Barry
    George Dixon
    Terry McGovern
    Johnny Coulon
    Kid Williams
    Memphis Pal Moore
    Bud Taylor
    Panama Al Brown
    Sixto Escobar
    Manuel Ortiz
    Jimmy Carruthers
    Raul Macias
    Jose Becerra
    Eder Jofre
    Fighting Harada
    Lionel Rose
    Ruben Olivares
    Rafael Herrera
    Chucho Castillo
    Carlos Zarate
    Lupe Pintor
    Miguel Lora
    Orlando Canizales
    Khaokor Galaxy
    Veeraphol Sahaprom
    Jeff Chandler
     
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