Would Prime SRRobinson vs Prime Hearns have been fun or a mismatch?

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  1. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    At 147.

    I think Hearns power would keep this one interesting if these two met prime for prime.

    I think the first couple of rounds would have been the most fun, with alot of ebb and flow. I can't rule out a early KD in Hearns favor.

    But after about the 8th, I see Tommy starting to gas after alot of non stop action, and SRR's stamina still will be good. I say Tommy would gas faster than SRR, because I see SRR going alot to the body early due to the fact Tommy's height can make him harder to hit clean, and SRR knew working the body early would make Tommy an easier target late.

    I will have to say SRR KO13 Hearns, in a exciting fight.
    Score at the time of stoppage, 116-112 SRR.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would be fun for a few rounds but then Hearns get´s KOed.
     
  3. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Hearns is more mobile taller,faster version of Robinson,but it still would be very interresting Robinson could still get to him and his stamina could be the difference,but seeing the problems a more mobile SRL had,Robinson if he doesent get to Hearns body would have a very long night or a very short 1,Robinson standing straight doesent do him any favors either,actually because of that it could be ended in devastaed proporsions.
     
  4. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think hearns against anyone at welterweight is a mismatch, h2h he's a monster. He will provide robinson with more problems than anyone except probably gavilan was able to at welterweight.

    Hearns biggest problem is that he like to get into a brawl too often, he was not the hardest to find and robinson would be doing that hard and frequent. Thats only likely to lead to 1 outcome and that sugar knocking hearns out, probably mid rounds
     
  5. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree about Hearns liking to get into brawls and thats really the only time he made himself available,but if he didnt and he fought smart,Robinson would be in big trouble.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Could go either way, Hearns has advantages with the better jab, is maybe quicker, rangier, better right, hit harder, Robinson was far better at mid/close range/better chin/stronger. Hard to call, need to have a think on it. Robinsons best P4P opponent this 1
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Would be a great fight. Sugar should be favoured.
     
  8. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Yea, I think Hearns jab was better, and I also think the Hearns was much more explosive early the SRR. But SRR's chin was made of iron, and although Hearns may put him down early, I'm almost positive SRR can weather the strom.

    And yes, if SRR can find his range (as in mid/close) and stay there, Hearns would deff be in for trouble.

    But although I pick SRR for a late ko, I deff dont doubt there could be a vastley different outcome.
     
  9. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    hearns would give srr problems. hearns ability to box on the outside would fustuate srr and he'd probbaly be winning the fight at tone point but srr is the more durable fighter and hearns didnt exactly shy away from trading punches. eventually srr when break him down and stop, around 8 or 9 rds.
     
  10. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    People favor srr against anyone, i think hearns could be a huge obstacle for him to overcome
     
  11. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i love tommy and as steve said, h2h he's a monster. but hearns had a nasty habit of keeping his right hand low while flicking that jab. i honestly think by round 3 robinson has closed the distance and has begun timing hearns. sugar ray has one of the best left hooks ever and it think it'll start landing early and often and when it does, lights out
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The difference here is SRR had amazing skills but also a solid chin and recoup powers, Hearns had power and skill and may make for some sparks but Ray would crack that egg
     
  13. 1_man_army

    1_man_army The Knockout King Full Member

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    It wouldn't be a mismatch but eventually Sugar Ray would test Tommy's chin and put him down. I went for a late KO for Robinson but it would be an interesting fight, especially early as Tommy would try to use that huge reach of his.
     
  14. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bobby Dykes was no Hearns, but he was a high quality taller welterweight with a superb right hand carrying dangerous power. Robby had him breathing heavily by just round two, with surgically thudding rights to the ribs. Ray worked Bobby over with some deadly inside damage. (Robinson really could do it all. We don't typically think of him as an infighter, but against rangier opponents than himself, like Dykes, his inside work was as proficient as anybody's.) Dykes was no Hearns, but when it came to endurance and resilience, Tommy was arguably not quite in Bobby's league either. (Bratton caught him cold with an automatic three knockdown stoppage, and Tiger Jones came from way behind to salvage a win by triggering a final round automatic three knockdown stoppage, but those are the only two stoppage losses in Bobby's 150 fights. Dykes came off the deck early to push Gavilan to a split decision in their 1952 title showdown.)

    SRL ravaged Tommy to the body later in their first fight. Robby would attack Hearns downstairs immediately, either with his hook or cross, whichever weapon Tommy's guard exposes his body to. I don't know that Hearns makes it to the championship rounds here. Ray's right would be well positioned to defend against Tommy's own right, and keep it at bay. Robby was extremely dangerous backing up (as Dykes discovered late, when Ray buckled him with a combination when Bobby tailed him into the ropes), and if he chose to give ground to Hearns, Tommy would be very likely to take the bait.
     
  15. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its 1 of the few head to heads Hearns would'nt be favored in,i guess what bothers me about SRR although his his handspeed was exceptional,his footspeed is another story,and him standing straight up,2 advantages SRL has over SRR,also think SRL put himself into position to go to the body better than SRR SRL could do it in a variety of ways and you had to be able against Hearns your options were limited especially if he was in a boxing mood and if that happens knowone could come close to beating him,and these are things you need against Hearns to avoid death or fascial alterration.Although i do like SRR's jab better than SRL,his body punching isnt as impressive,I think this could go similar to the Duran fight and we all know he had a iron chin to,the question would be if SRR could survive the early onslaught and get to the body as effective as SRL could,and even when SRL got there early Hearns superior speed,timing,and reach took over the fight while SRL took a speedbag lession,SRR's jab is the wildcard for him to win,with him standing straight up and his average footspeed and with his body attack not being as multi faceted as SRL,i think he would be in big trouble,and he's never seen a fighter with the skills,power,technique,and speed of Hearns,and SRR's style was predacated on him being the bigger longer fighter,which would not be case here,i like Hearns's advantages better,even Hearns has never seen a left jab and a righthand like SRR has,but Hearns's righthand and jab was the best in any era at these weights Hearns gets this 1.