Would Prime SRRobinson vs Prime Hearns have been fun or a mismatch?

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  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thomas Hearns at 147 (or 154 for that matter) is never on the "bottom end" of a mismatch.
     
  2. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GREAT fight for as long as it lasted.....SRR wins this...
     
  3. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Quality Post.

    I think the key here, which most agree, is body work over time is the key to get Tommy where you want him.

    Oh, and I don't say early KO because, SRR wouldn't be Hagler going into this (at least I wouldnt think so) and wouldn't be the destroyer Hagler tried to be. I see SRR being methodical in finding his way inside and for the most part baiting Hearns for the breakdown. But before SRR gets settled, Hearns bombs will make it interesting.
     
  4. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    See this is a problem doing what Hagler,Barkley,and Leonard did was the only way to beat him,and even then there was no gaurantee,as the damage he would put on you and your career and still have a chance to ko you.So if SRR would try to fight methotical,it wont work look what happend when SRL tryed that he nearly got his eye put out,is good as SRR boxing skills are but he lacks a main ingediant to pull this off the way your saying he would do it,he lacks footspeed,against Hearn's theres no chance in hell to try to outbox him like that especially when there's very little in the 1st place, especially at 154,he would be battered and beaten up and his ATG chin would get exposed just like Durans did.Boxing against Hearns is impossble even for the great SRR,he would have to do what Hagler did,and even then im not sure his chin and bodywork would hold up Haglers did.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Agreed ... Hearns simply did not have a great beard or great recooperative powers .. they were decent but not great and against Robinson , who was just as devestating a puncher, he would get cracked eventually ...

    Hearns other problem was that he did not often fight cool ... like Dempsey he often saw red when he got hit and threw caution to the wind ....

    I like Robinson, somewhere inside the distance ... till the end a tough fight for Ray ...
     
  6. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think this fight could surprise a lot of people,especially at 154.
    I dont see anybody outboxing hearns.
    I think there are only two ways to beat peak hearns,the hagler way or the leonard way. The first cannot be done by any except hagler.
    Robinson can win like leonard did,but the big question is will robinson dance away for the first five rounds like leonard?
    Is it in robinsons mentality to do this against a guy that is not a brawler?
    If robbie trades with hearns early i can see the unthinkable happen....
     
  7. TommyV

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    Not a mis-match at all. Hearns has the speed and technical skills to make it a difficult affair for Robinson, and his chin wasn't as bad as people make out. Robinson still has the power to stop him though, and I think it would be competitive up until a stoppage for Sugar.
     
  8. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    :think

    Good insight.

    As I've previously stated, I don't see SRR going Hagler on Hearns, nor do I think that would be in his best interest. I am like in you thinking, only Hagler can do to Hearns what was done in that fight, and if you arent Hagler you wont get the same outcome in 3 rounds. If SRR did try to pull a Hagler, there very well may be an upset.

    I wonder, if this fight was hyped up even bigger than hagler-hearns,or hearns-srl, if a super motivated Hearns (more than srr or hagler) could show up on fight night. A Hearns that wouldn't fade down the stretch. How the fight would go in the championship rounds would be very interesting if Hearns still had the gas to do more than just survive.
     
  9. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think hearns at 154 or 147 could outpoint robby,exactly like he was doing with leonard.
    The crux however,is what happens when this turns into a dogfight?
    In the rounds where leonard hurt tommy ray was still very careful in attacking as he knew what a puncher hearns was.
    I dont doubt that robinson could also get to tommy,and quicker if he landed.
    However,i just see robinson as being more reckless and open in going for tommy and that could prove fatal. Even hagler made sure his chin was down and his hands up throughout the hearns fight.
     
  10. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    The Sugarman would get to Hearns early, and have him tendered up for a 12th round TKO.
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    This was a more lethal brand of sugar than even Tommy was used to.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Expect for Leonard who he's fought and lost to. Hearns is my pick in any match up at 147. Robinson has everything needed to win here, but with Hearns's size advantages and his know how to use them. I'm picking Hearns
    Herns chin is underrated. It Leonard 14 rounds to break him down. He was hurt going into the Hagler fight and Barkley just had his number.
    Robinson is going to have 5 and a half inches of ground to make up on Hearns who is a master at using his jab to control distance. I can see this playing out like Hearns/Leonard did. This means that Robinson is going to need a late round stoppage to win. Robinson is likely to finish stronger, but Hearns is likely to build enough of a lead to hold on for a close win.
    Official result if it goes the distance W 15 8-7 Thomas Hearns. I can see Robinson getting the "Event" win. Which will set up Robinson/Hearns 2.
     
  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It'd be a fire fight. Chin prevails. Robinson KO6.
     
  14. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No mismatch, and Hearns would outbox Robinson imo, but when the moment of truth comes Tommy will be flat on the floor.

    Whilst I think Robinson could catch Hearns early, I think it would be more of a drawn out affair, probably going 10 rounds or so.

    Welter Hearns was a great, great fighter, and probably beats any welter not named Sugar Ray.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    So you got Hearns beating KG?