Would Quarry have any chance against a young Mike Tyson

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  1. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Before Tyson - Holyfield I, when people thought Tyson would steamroll Holyfield (so much that writers openly wrote about fearing for Holyfield's safety), my take was that Holyfield wouldn't win but he'd put up a much tougher fight than people were anticipating.

    I feel the same about a young Tyson against an at-his-best Quarry.
     
  2. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    As Don King would say
    " His only hope is Slim..
    And Slim is outta town".
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Quarry wasn't Holyfield
     
  4. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jerry would get stuck in! He couldn't help myself.A short explosive war allover in about three rnds with Jerry stopped on the ropes.
     
  5. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People were worried because Holyfield had reports of heart trouble. And looked like he had no Gastank at all in a couple of his fights

    His Handspeed, boxing skillsand reflexes were still excellent as evident vs Ray Mercer.


    his mysterious "stamina problems" resolved itself by letting his body shrink down to 200 pounds or less between fights.

    Public perception may have been that Holyfield was done but that version of Holyfield was as good as ever.

    He was bigger stronger and hit harder than in his 20s, still had most of his speed, his stamina issues had resolved themselves and unlike the brawl happy, stupid evander that had unnecessary difficulties vs Bowe Holmes and Cooper in 1991/2,
    1996 evander had tasted defeat, learned from it and it had made him wiser and more strategic. Punching when tyson was trying to rest and clinching and spoiling when Tyson was trying to punch.




    Young mike Tyson bombs quarry out. Come on guys.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Couldn't have said it better myself
     
  7. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Quarry loses 100%, however in the build up could imagine Jerry using the famous Tony Galento phrase "I'll murder da bum".

    Quarry would not be intimidated prefight that is for sure
     
  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I absolutely think he has a shot .. if he went in to fight the right fight he had the chin and could hang in as Tyson tired himself out .. obviously the longer it lasted the better his shot and while I would not bet him it is a better shot by far than most .
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I also have a shot at hitting the Powerball jackpot twice in a row
     
  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. I think Quarry has a good chance, since Tyson never fought anybody like Quarry in his prime. Mike was bigger and had faster reflexes than Frazier, but Frazier seemed to have more once punch power than Tyson and had a much better inside game. Tyson in his fight against Tillis showed he wasn't the most effective fighter on the inside. A lot of people seem to be judging Quarry of off the Frazier fight, but I don't see the comparison, since Frazier and Tyson fight nothing alike. Tyson would often back up and get space to get his power shots off while Frazier usually would only take a back step if he walked into a shot or was literally pushed as in the Foreman fights.

    Tyson's work rate would often drop considerably after the first 5-6 rounds. Also, Quarry had good head movement and timing of his own. Also, unlike Frazier, who stuck to Quarry like glue and wore him down Tyson liked to give himself space and would only come in when was punching. I see Quarry going the distance with Tyson.
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    At best, he'd do as well as Thomas. At worst, it's another Spinks blowout.
     
  12. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really good examples.


    Thomas was a recovering drug addict and his right hand was never the same after he had several authors on it after the Weaver fight. Thomas barely threw his right in the fight with Tyson and was even favoring it.

    Also, the Spinks blowout wasn't that special considering Spinks was inactive and had two shot knees by 1988. Spinks was almost 10 lbs heavier than when he first beat Holmes and had been out the ring for over a year when he fought Tyson. Spinks was a crippled fighter that was cashing in his belt just like Martinez did against Cotto.

    If Tillis can go 12 with Tyson I don't see why Quarry couldn't, since Quarry is just as durable and isn't as easy to hit. Quarry is much faster than most if not all of Tyson's opponents. Quarry is also far more experienced than either Holyfield, Tillis, or Michael Spinks.

    Tyson had one bad knee going into the Danny Williams fight and got destroyed because he could barely bend his right knee.
     
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  13. he grant

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    Disagree. Spinks was psyched out coming in and folded. For all his faults Quarry had exceptional courage and a terrific chin.. the more I think about it the more the match intrigues me.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Not to be a size queen, but prime Tyson was 218 pounds of skilled, fast, explosive punching power. Prime Quarry was 195-200ish. Tyson's size advantage plus ALL HIS OTHER ADVANTAGES guarantees that this doesn't last long.

    If I had to pick a fighter closer to that size to get the best of a prime Tyson, I'd pick someone else. Louis would have to be the most likely candidate. And if he couldn't do it, I don't think any fighter that size could
     
  15. he grant

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    Never said I'd pick him. The thread asks if he'd have a chance and I feel he would. Even in his prime Tyson could be lulled into a complacency if his opening blitz did not succeed .. Thomas took a tremendous beating in round one and hung on another five and landed some along the way .. when Mitch Green, Bonecrusher Smith and Tucker hugged him to death he hit neutral gears .. granted they were huge but he got a bit out of his game. He showed this against Fergerson ( very young ) and Quick Tillis too ..

    I have no doubt Tyson in his prime was exceptional but he was never, even at his best, the strongest mentally , always potentially fragile. Quarry at his best was very cagey, could be elusive, could box and punch, had an exceptional heart, zero fear, a concrete chin and was an expert counter puncher with some power .. while I would not pick him I would view him as a guy that had a shot against a mentally fragile Tyson.