Would Rocky Marciano have adapted to modern training methods?

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  1. UFC2015

    UFC2015 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am simply in Awe of the guy, a lot of people talk about Tyson's and Tua's limited dimension i.e. short reaches, heights but Rocky Marciano had the same issues as well.

    What i found quite extra ordinary to read was how hard he worked to maintain his status quo and his obsessive compulsive work ethic. I read he would jog/run 5-6 miles every single day 365 days a year even when he had no fights scheduled. If a fight would be scheduled he would go into training camps far away from his family at least 3 months in advance and in the final few weeks before the fight, he would remain completely secluded from his family, outside world e.t.c. During training camp he would jog/run 9-10 miles every day and in the final week before the fight he would jog/run 12-15 miles every day.

    I also read that his punching bags would weigh a minimum of 300 lbs and he constantly kept pounding away at them which is the secret behind his legendary punching power. This is not to mention the usual rope skipping, sparring he did as well.

    It is no surprise to find out that he was perhaps the best conditioned boxer of all time, who would never gas out and would surprise his opponents with his high work rate. He was not born with naturally gifts of speed, boxing skills but he fought to his strengths, he knew he had knock out power, he believed in attrition, coming to his opponents, absorbing punishment but constantly throwing punches to his opponents faces, body. In the Walcott fight i believe he deliberately punched his opponents shoulders, kept pounding away till Walcott was to sore to bring his shoulders up and hence came the right hand which knocked him out. This was a fight Rocky was losing, trailing way behind on the scorecard but he never gave up and kept pounding away.

    I know everyone keeps diminishing Marciano's achievements, record, the fact he was 185-190 lbs, quality of opposition but lets face it 49-0 is not a joke at all. Just on the basis of the sacrifices he made and his work ethic he deserves to be ranked as a top 5 HOF.

    I personally have no doubt that had Rock been around in the 70's, 80's, 90's and in the present era, he would have benefited immensely from the massive advancement made in Sports Medicine, Training knowledge, Nutrition.

    The guy had the work ethic back then in the 40's and 50's, surely he could have easily built himself up to a 220 lb, well conditioned fighter and would also have benefited from good boxing coaching in the current era as well.
     
  2. BCS8

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    Honestly, I doubt "modern training methods" would have made a huge difference to Marciano. I reckon most of the heavyweights around would do better using HIS training and nutrition. Rocky was on the limit of what was achievable for a man of his stature and type.
     
  3. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the main effect for rocky would probably just be being able to get a couple extra fights out of his body. from what i've seen his diet was pretty good.
     
  4. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Once more the same nonsense... marciano was a natural 186 pounder and he was perfect like that,he would be 186 in 1960,1970 ,00 and 2050,his frame was smaller and more narrow than tyson's and tua's
     
  5. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Rocky at 205 was a beach ball,in the computer fight was 195 and was fat,he had narrow shoulders. Nstural big Guys like baer yes,would take advantage of a modern era and would increment weight
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    He'd be awesome in any era. He doesn't need to change his training methods. His strength, stamina and power would be exceptional in this era with the exact same training he was doing then.

    He would not be fighting above light-heavy though.
     
  7. mcvey

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    I agree, adding weight to Rocky would slow down an already slowish heavy,he was in absolute top shape as he was.:good
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He would be a little bit stronger/faster maybe with a s&c coach but that's about it.
     
  9. LXEX55

    LXEX55 Active Member Full Member

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    I find it very hard to improve upon the Marciano that was.
     
  10. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When the phrase "modern training methods and nutrition" is mentioned we are talking steroids. Marciano on steroids would be athlete who could train even longer and harder. Whether this would make him a greater hwt is the question.
     
  11. BCS8

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    I reckon "modern" guys take steroids and train half as hard as he did.

    There's no substitute for absolutely fanatical determination and iron will.

    Look at what Karelin did without steroids and I'd still favour him over any ped pumping wrestler you care to mention.
     
  12. Gannicus

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    Marciano MOST LIKELY WAS ON STEROIDS. He was around in the 40's and 50's, remember. This further strengthens why he'd be successful in this era. He was in one of the golden eras of boxing.

    I can vouch for less protection causing a bigger punch. My knuckles became huge (not swollen) because of punching a heavybag with less protection (gardening gloves).
     
  13. UFC2015

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    By modern training methods, i am talking about weights and more knowledge on nutrition. People who say Rocky would not have been effective at 220-230 lbs, i beg to differ. Rocky was not dependent upon speed or footwork. His biggest asset were his Big time game changing one shot power, he had a massive work rate, he never stopped throwing punches to the head, body, shoulders to wear his opponents down the longer the fight went on, his heart and chin where he never stopped coming or giving up and most importantly his legendary conditioning and stamina.

    I think he would have benefited immensely from the modern scientific knowledge on nutrition and training. He could still do his daily 5-6 miles jogging and 3 months camp before a fight.

    Overall i believe the guy is massively under rated and gets sold shot. At the end of the 49-0 is not a joke and he took plenty of punishment to get there. Even though his victory against Joe Louis was against a faded version but even Louis conceeded after the bout that he doubts whether he would have been able to beat Marciano in his prime.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Are you saying Marciano was on steroids? I'm confused. :huh
     
  15. BCS8

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    It's even more likely that Marciano was Batman. If you think about it, it all fits.