Would Ron Lyle, Be Capable Of Beating Most Of The 1950 s Heavyweight s?

We never saw Ron lyle in his prime!! He would have been a major heavyweight contender in any era, he mightve ruled the 50's how would anyone know, when we never saw his prime years? and as far as ranked contenders/ champs go Ron was 8-5-1 w/ 3 knockouts (WBA) And thats alot better than Bonavena, Chuvalo, Bugner, Elliis (6-5) Norton (5-5) And Shavers. in Fact That right up ther with Quarry (9-5-1 5 ko's ) vs top ten. Quarry actually should be 9-7-1

Neither Muhammad Ali 1970 Atlanta exiled or George Chuvalo 1969 were ranked IN THE TOP TEN when they fought the Bellflower Bomber

 

Just sparring stories. There is a quote where they talk about not wanting Lyles number and saying he looks like poured concrete.

 

He’s no Tire Iron Jones.

 

Spit out my water laughing at this.

 

Same goes for Williams too.

 

I'm always reading that Moore beat the highly rated contender Bob Baker. Baker had been soundly beaten in two of his last three fights and had been out of the top 10 for more than half a year.

 

what are you talking about? The only legitimate rankings at that time was by the NBA. And with them, Baker was rated each year Rocky was the champion!

By the time moore was Marcianos top challenger Bob Baker and Nino Valdes were the rated near the top with him.

when Marciano retired Valdes and Baker fought each other. I think Tommy Huricane Jackson had to beat the winner and Patterson, as #1 light heavyweight contender, beat Jackson before he could meet Moore in a vacant title fight.

So you would have to say Baker was instrumental in deciding the next champion and certainly elite heavyweight around the time moore challenged Rocky.

 

As Ronny pointed out

" We never saw Ron lyle in his prime!! He would have been a major heavyweight contender in any era, he mightve ruled the 50's how would anyone know, when we never saw his prime years? and as far as ranked contenders/ champs go Ron was 8-5-1 w/ 3 knockouts (WBA) And thats a lot better than Bonavena, Chuvalo, Bugner, Elliis (6-5) Norton (5-5) And Shavers. in Fact That right up there with Quarry (9-5-1 5 ko's ) vs top ten. Quarry actually should be 9-7-1
Neither Muhammad Ali 1970 Atlanta exiled or George Chuvalo 1969 were ranked IN THE TOP TEN when they fought the Bellflower Bomb "

Lyle has a winning record vs good 70's fighters, Better than:

Bonavena, Chuvalo, Bugner, Elliis (6-5) Norton (5-5) And Shavers. in Fact That right up there with Quarry (9-5-1 5 ko's ) vs top ten. Quarry actually should be 9-7-1

Are they all over rated too? Lyle beat good fighters and fought top competition. And the point if him being in prison for prime years shouldn't be discounted when you talk about what he accomplished.

 

Which is irrelevant since we're not talking about who was ranked when Moore fought Marciano, we're talking about whether Moore's win against Baker is evidence that he could have done the same thing to Ron Lyle.

There's no way of juggling the numbers to change the reality that this was a win against an unranked fighter who was coming off a one-sided defeat by an opponent who was also unranked.

 

Williams actually has multiple wins over ranked opposition unlike Lyle.

 

What the hell does you thinking Machen wouldn't have beat "a more experienced Quarry" (a completely baseless assumption considering what happened in their real fight) have to do with prime Machen against Lyle who fought nothing like Quarry?

This match-up is a no-brainer.

 

Folley had far more success at the top level, and reached no. 1 which Lyle never came close to doing.