Would Rope-a-dope work on Tyson?

I was just going to comment that Tyson was still 19 at this point.

But in all honesty, If Ali were to beat Tyson it wouldn't be because he used the 'rope-a-dope'. In fact if he tried to use the 'rope-a-dope' strategy as means for victory I would favor:

Joe Louis
Jack Dempsey
Rocky Marciano
Mike Tyson
Joe Frazier (who he unsuccessfully tried the rope-a-dope on)

Tyson wouldn't just sit there and punch himself out. He's a precision puncher a very different animal to George Foreman.

 

It wasn't Foreman's misses that tired him out as much as the fact that Ali kept his head down at almost all times.

As a wrestler, that's pretty much what you're taught to do to tire out opponents. It's exhausting. Just throwing that out there.

 

Yes - BUT Tyson would be gassed in round 6 cos he has much less stamina than Foreman.

1974 Ali KO7 1988 Tyson - If Ali used rope-A-Dope. :deal

 

I think Pre Prision Tyson picks his shots well. He wouldnt be hitting with the blunt force of Foreman but he would be picking his shots and using head movement so landing to score and win the rounds may be harder.

I think i posted befor to gas Tyson Ali would be much better using the full ring and throwing the jab because i dont see Tyson being able to chase Ali around and use head movement to avoid the jab all night. Then again Ali himself admitted in 1974 he couldnt run around the ring all night so maybe he has to stand and let Tyson try and wear himself out once or twice a round.

 

i like this. i agree with the majority of posts but tyson was very, very good at working the body in his prime. though, as mcgrain noted, his prime is difficult to define. either way, while tyson wasn't meticulous with his shots he was as accurate as any heavy in the past 30 years. with his combinations enough would land to discourage ali from lingering

 

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'74 Ali is not gonna beat a top tier swarmer in his peak.

He'd lose to:

'71 Frazier
'52 Marciano
'20 Dempsey
'88 Tyson

Incidentally all 4 of these fighters have better stamina than Foreman, at any stage in his career.

 

Buster Mathis Jr. sort of tried it.

 

Tysons power is not even comparable with Foreman, beleive me.
If Ali of 1964-1974 danced it would be enough to gas Tyson as he hopelessly chased the way faster Ali, cos Tyson only has 5 rounds of stamina where he looks good before he gasses quick. Rope-a-Dope would make Tyson wear himself out And if Ali can take Foreman's best haymakers for 7 rounds - taking Tysons' for 5 rounds would be a doddle mate. :thumbsup

 

true, i think there was a significant difference in foreman and tyson's one punch power but foreman's accuracy at that time was pretty weak. tyson through more, more precise combinations and he would be pounding elbows all night. he'd likely land cleaner in the long run

 

Ali has amazing recuperation so i think he could do it once a round just to help Tyson blow out some steam. This way Tyson is trowing soem big punches once a round chasing Ali constantly and moving his head whilst all Ali has to do it stick , move , work his jab to force Tyson into bobbing and weaving his stamina away.

I think when Ali does let Tyson trow a few to the body he should be in the middle of the ring and not the ropes so he can pull away slightly to keep making Tyson miss whilst staying close enough to give Tyson somthing to aim for.

No idea how it panns out but its a damn good fight.

 

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Prime vs prime - I would be 100% sure to pick Ali over Tyson.
Ali can do EVERYTHING that Buster did to destroy a Peaked Tyson, but better And faster. :deal

 

agree with the analysis, good point about the middle of the ring. he could take some juice out of his shots with a slight turn

 

Thanx. I think i posted befor i have it 55-45 in Alis favour maybe 60-40 i havent thougt about it too much. I think tactics play a big part in this fight. Probably stamina and conditioning too.

 

I agree that Tysons one punch power isnt up to Foremans but prime Tyson does have better accuracy so i worry about where they are landing on Ali. Tysons stamina has always been a bit of a question mark for me.

 

Well ALi has teh greatest heavyweight tactics of all time with help of Angello Dundee in his corner And he has proved 15 round stamina.
60-40 seems to close for logic - was Ali destroyed by a grade C journeyman while at his peak years?? - NO, but tyson was in 10 rounds . Ali only lost when past-prime And rusty - when he faced Peak ATG Frazier, even then it was a close WAR!