Would Roy Jones had conquered the cruiserweight division?

His time was running out. He had been in decline since 01 or so. A good CW could have beaten him.

 

^^^ agreed, I wouldn't ever count him out, but you can't beat the clock, alhtough he would've had a pretty substantial speed advantage in CW

 

yes

 

Bit of an exaggeration don't you think? I said that Jones had been slowing down since 2001. That had nothing to do with Tarver. I never placed a percentage on it. You did. Jones showed signs of losing his legs against Harmon. It's not my problem if you have a problem with it.

Jones prime was from about 94-2001. I have always said that.

 

roy jones is the boxer of a lifetime for anyone born mid 80's on

 

At least KG says that Jones' prime was 7 years long (a legitimate length), much longer than the 1.5 years that Tyson fans claim.

 

My guess is that most fighters primes last about that long. People assume that if a great fighter is still winning, they are still prime. IMO, with great fighters especially, these guys keep winning because even past their primes, they are still better than good fighters in the same weight class. So they continue to win. That doesn't mean they are still at their best.

Jones, DLH, Trinidad, Whitaker, etc. You name a great fighter and they most likely still won against good opposition past their primes. If you go back and look at their entire career, you will notice a steady decline usually a couple of years before someone finally beats them.

 

Not know but be for 2004 he beats them all.

 

I think he could have dominated cruiser. There was NO ONE for him. Jirov was probably the only thing there for him.

 

i think it depends how serious he took the fights

 

His flame was burning out. He could have been beaten. In his prime years, I think he could have gone up to cruiserweight and had a lot of success.

 

Actually Tarver had only been in the ring a few years. His in ring age was substantially lower. You are not going to be able to twist what I say. It's a useless proposition. Stop trying.

Also, I never said Tarver was prime. His prime has nothing to do with what I said. For that matter, Tarver had nothing to do with what I said.

 

I said nothing of the sort, but if it pleases you to twist what I said, go right on ahead.

A fighter can lose in his prime. But prime has nothing to do with when he loses. I made a post on why people seem to think a fighters prime is actually longer than it was. Many fighters lose in their prime. But many fighters are mistaken for being in their prime simply because they haven't lost or are still rated highly.

I think you are perhaps reading more into what I am saying because you are viewing my posts from the wrong point of view. Just because I am a Jones fan doesn't mean I can't have an unbiased opinion about him. Whether the opinion is right or wrong is another issue.

 

Jerov the fight that never happened, would have beat him.....

I hate this crap poor Jones was weight drained....with all the modern nutritiional aids.......
Archi Moore went up to Jones's weight of 195 beat up real Heavies not a Ruiz, and then went down by chewing rare steak and spitting it out...Archi went down to 175 at 12 on the day fo the fight. 8 Hours before the fight....
Jones got down to 175 what was it...36 hours before or was that three full days? Either way he had lots of time to recurperate...given all the Modern Training methiods that so many are so up on. Hell Archi didn't even have Gateraid.
Either way that is pure BS that he was Weight Drained....he was just old, his legs left him, because he played basketball instead of doing road work.