Would Sugar Ray Leonard have beaten Joe Calzaghe at super middleweight?

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  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler was aging and he had the Hearns and Mugabi fights where he was hit clean on both and cut against Hearns and he was inactive after both fights. He was not the same, so Leonard fought a diminished Hagler. I think Joe outpoints Ray.
     
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  2. surfinghb1

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    C'mon X you are giving Ray to much credit here up in these higher weights. You are right that Joe was the slap master. But I'm not buying the version of SRL who beat Hagler theory who would only need to put on an extra 3-4 pounds. There is a reason he waited on Hagler, shopworn after the Mugabi fight, and then Hagler coming in with the garbage game plan and still comes out of it with a coin flip decision as the fight could have gone either way. Yes give Ray all the credit in the world with the perfect timing on taking the fight, and the psychological advantage he had, as well as his great performance ... but Ray was no Duran and would not get in the ring with prime Hagler as Duran did. There is a reason why Ray waited and handpicked fights, and dictated terms over the majority of the years later in his career. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it backfired( Hearns 2 and Norris)..He doesn't get to weaken Joe as he did with Lalonde and there is no reason for Ray to take this fight. He loses his advantages at this weight, hand speed, size, strength, stamina, activity, etc. Ray will have to work way to hard to try and out point Joe. He will gas here at 168 and the Ref waves it off in the 11th