Would Sugar Ray Robinson Still be #1 P4P if he had Fought in a Different Era ?

I do not agree with this at all. Doing a H2H-scenario is always highly speculative and often unfair, since boxing have evolved. I don't think Greb would do that well if he was time-machined to the present, but there's no doubt that he was great in his own time. His record tells us that much.

Similarily, we can surmise the greatness of fighters like Langford and Wills, because of their records and of contemprary accounts, even though they suffered behind the colour line. The stars of for example like Dempsey and Jeffries have on the other hand waned in many's eyes because of holes in their records.

But interesting in this context is how many modern fighters don't get the ranking their talent perhaps deserve, since they are able to carefully manage their career around dangerous obstacles and still make huge money. Roy Jones is an excellent example of this. His talent may have been second to none, but since he steered clear of several of the most dangerous opponents and also had much less fights than the old-timers this can't be seen as a proven fact. Far from it.

If Robinson had been active today, I think he would have fallen in more or less the same bracket.

 

Ok. I see what you mean.

 

This wouldn't be in any way connected to your belief that Jimmy Wilde should be the GOAT now, would it?


To any serious boxing fan, resume is the single most important factor in these discussions. You have to beat proven quality to prove quality.

 

Who would you rank higher Oscar or Floyd?,

Floyd is a great champ but for his talent his resume shoud be better, how would Floyd have gone with Kostya?, Cotto? or some of the bigger names\talents, I think he would be a tough fight for anybody, but we just don't know.

With Oscar we know how he would of gone becease he fought them, lost a few but beat Sweet Pea (close), Tito etc... some great wins.

If JCC did not fight Sweet Pea he would be ranked alot higher (before the bout alot of boxing experts were saying he was the best since SRR), same if Tito had not fought Oscar or Hopkins, to a lesser degree.

I think it is unfair to penalise someone like Marvin for his divison not being the strongest middleweight divison ever, because he ruled it with an iron fist and maybe thats why there were no big names in that division.

A resume is how a boxer will be judged, it's not the boxers fault if his division is weak at that time or if the boxer is not suited to jump divisions (like Marvin jumping to lightheavy), but it is the boxes fault for not having a better resume if they had the chance, otherwise they will chose to fight boxers that they "know" they can beat.