Would the average boxer today win a round v the best boxer 50 years ago?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Someone asked a stupid question on Quora asking would the average fighter today beat the best boxer from 50 years ago, and it got me thinking, would it be a shutout for the P4P top guy in 1969, what do fans think and who was the best fighter in 1969?
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    Which division, it needs to be more specific.:deal:

    The best in each one of them? The best in a few? Or the best overall? Which limits it to just guys in and around that particular division.
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Figure that Ali guy would win some rounds at heavy.
     
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  4. jhar26

    jhar26 Member Full Member

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    He would probably beat all the average ones and some of the very good ones. But of course we have to take into account that todays heavyweights fight in truth in the equivalent of a weight division above Ali. Guys like Jack Dempsey, Floyd Patterson or Joe Frazier were almost tiny compared to the likes of a Wlad, Fury or Joshua.
     
  5. FinitoxDinamita

    FinitoxDinamita Member Full Member

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    Not only would the modern fighter win rounds, but he would destroy these primitive fighters.
     
  6. ecto55

    ecto55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No - there’s always been larger heavyweights with quick hands...eg. Buster Mathis Sr.

    250lb heavyweights are not a new phenomenon- it’s just that in the days of 15 round championship fights they often gassed in the latter rounds or faltered in the championship rounds (rd’s 12-15).
     
  7. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Member Full Member

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    prob not
    boxing is a sport for d level athletes at best these days
     
  8. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Active Member Full Member

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    Today's fighters would by and large slaughter them, other than a handful in certain divisions.
     
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  9. RealDeal

    RealDeal Active Member Full Member

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    Here are your heavyweights in 1969:

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    I’m not exactly sure how you’d define “average” but perhaps choose someone like Bryant Jennings. And then ask yourself how the Bryant Jennings of 2019 would do against the 1969 version of Frazier or Ali.
     
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  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Mathis would be considered small today. Not a great example of a 'large heavyweight.'
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Smart dumb guy comment. Buster Mathis was a talented am who was nothing special as a pro and wouldn't be anything special after the 70s.

    The big guys at the top of division are the stand outs from a sea of mostly mediocre big guys. That trend mostly is from the 80s onward.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Henry Cooper is on those ratings and somehow did floor Ali though.
     
  13. jhar26

    jhar26 Member Full Member

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    If there had been an internet in the 1960's fans would have posted after that fight, "Ali has a chin of glass! He's been exposed!" ;)
     
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  14. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    I’ve been following boxing for decades, and I’ve never quite understood how those guys from the 60s and before were able to do what they did. I believe SRR fought Bull twice within a three week span.

    Regarding the subject, I’ve also never understood why so ppl think old fighters were better. People who say this can never explain exactly what was lost.
     
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    Depends on at which weight, if you did it at LHW for example, a guy like Anthony Yarde wouldn't make a round with Bob Foster let alone win one
     
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