Would the chin experts of ESB care to grade the following chins?

I'm not an expert. In fact, I'm a chin checker noob. But here goes -

Joe Mesi - No idea

Andre Berto - Untested, but probably in the B range

Allen Green - D

Kelly Pavlik - B+

Chad Dawson - B+

Jermain Taylor - C+

Tommy Hearns - C+

Bernard Hopkins - A-

Lennox Lewis - C+

Wladimir Klitschko - C-

Felix Trinidad - C+

Joe Frazier - Don't know... if I had to guess, I'd say B-

Roy Jones - C-

Manny Pacquiao - B

Jaidon Codrington - F

 

Not bad, I would change Pavliks to a B-, and Wlads to a D-, other than that pretty good.

 

Does being knocked out by Foreman give you a B- chin? Frazier's chin is in the A range... :deal

 

:yep

 

Bad guess then

 

Where the Zakman when we need him?

 

Taylor has a better chin than Dawson, easy. And not just p4p, Dawson has a paper chin he's about o be exposed a la Wlad Sanders/Brewster.

 

Here is the official ratings from the Zakman-Amsterdam system.

Joe Mesi - Glass

Andre Berto - Shaky

Allen Green - Shaky

Kelly Pavlik - Average

Chad Dawson - Average

Jermain Taylor - Shaky

Tommy Hearns - Shaky

Bernard Hopkins - Iron

Lennox Lewis - Glass

Wladimir Klitschko - Shaky

Felix Trinidad - Good

Joe Frazier - Good

Roy Jones - Shaky

Manny Pacquiao - Good

Jaidon Codrington - Grade A China

 

Wrong, Dawson recovered quickly when Adamek put a perfect right on his jaw, when Pavlik nailed that perfect straight right on Taylor, he was all but out on his feet.

Taylor's chin is not better than Dawson's.

Dawson is also 2-3 levels better than Taylor as an overall fighter. Grow up.

 

Joe Mesi - C

Andre Berto - C

Allen Green - B+

Kelly Pavlik - B

Chad Dawson - B

Jermain Taylor - C+

Tommy Hearns - Once a B but now an F

Bernard Hopkins - B

Lennox Lewis - B

Wladimir Klitschko - C+

Felix Trinidad - B+

Joe Frazier - A

Roy Jones - C+

Manny Pacquiao - A

Jaidon Codrington - C+

 

Because Jones P4P showed a level up in punch resistance from Lewis. Jones was taken out from Tarver yes, but later in his career, he showed no punch resistance problems at his best and even in the Johnson bout, it took a sustained beating to put him out.

So we can agree that Jones at 175 later in the career indeed has a glass chin.

But he had a workable chin at 160 and 168, so the chin rating system goes china to glass to shaky to average as the bottom four 'levels', in averaging Jones' later 175 glass chin with an 'average' chin from 160-168, then all in all he should be awarded 'shaky' for the overall career.

When Lewis was hit perfect on the jaw on two occassions, he was absolutely KTFO and it was at a time where he at his peak or close to it.

 

:rofl

Wlad and Cod are on the same level? When was Wlad utterly KTFO in 1 round, having to be carried out on a stretcher unconcious?

To my knowledge, Wlad has never knocked unconcious.