Would the chin experts of ESB care to grade the following chins?

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  1. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No sarcasm intended.
     
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  2. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So.. if I'm understanding you right.. you're throwing in his OVERALL resistance in the divisions he's been in rather than judging it from an individual weight class, right?

    If you want to put it that way that's fine, but nevertheless.. Jones didn't get hit nearly enough for me to say that he even had a " workable " chin at 160/168, in order to judge someone's chin they first need to be HIT on the chin, and judging from the big shots that actually landed well.. I think Jones' is glass. Hell, the punch that Johnson knocked Jones out with didn't even land on the chin, so that to me shows a poor punch resistance overall, not just a weak chin.
     
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  3. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The man had never been hurt until he met one of the harder punchers in his division. There is no sin in being KOed by Alan Green. Many other have been. Green was naturally the bigger fighter too. Jaidon has no history of being hurt in fights. Wladimir has a long history of being staggered. If Green had not KOed Jaidon, I would have given him a B+.
     
    Flatlander, Oct 12, 2007
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  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Every fighter gets hit, no matter how hard to hit they are. He showed solid enough punch resistance at 160 and 168, enough to at least rate it at 'average'.

    I agree that by the time Tarver got him, his chin was glass, that's not even negotiable.
     
    Amsterdam, Oct 12, 2007
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  5. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh Of course it is negotiable. Jones' chin was as good as it ever was. Jones had never fought any wars. He was not punchy or was he ring weary. He was slower all around and lacked the same reflexes but the punch that Tarver landed would have hurt of KOed anyone. It was the perfect punch right on the button.
     
    Flatlander, Oct 12, 2007
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  6. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More chins.

    Chris Byrd "A" (except against superheavy weights)

    James Toney "A"

    Sam Peter "B"

    Evander Holyfield "A" once but now a "C"

    Shannon Briggs "C-"

    Vitali Klitschko "B"
     
    Flatlander, Oct 12, 2007
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  7. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    C'mon now. VITALI isn't Wladimir, his chin is/was VERY solid.
     
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  8. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell, I gave the man a "B"! :lol:
     
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  9. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough, lol, i probably overreacted.

    I'd give him an A though. The only time I've ever seen him staggered were from great shots from Lennox, and even then, I don't think he was that badly hurt.
     
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  10. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Five years ago I would have given him a "A" :yep
     
    Flatlander, Oct 12, 2007
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  11. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    B is about right for Vitali, I think.
     
    RAMPAGE0017, Oct 13, 2007
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  12. J_Roth

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    Pretty good stuff Hammy.
     
    J_Roth, Oct 13, 2007
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  13. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Amsterdam=Wanks dogs..
     
    ozziebattler, Oct 13, 2007
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  14. Mendoza

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    Joe Mesi - Grade C

    Andre Berto - Not sure yet

    Allen Green - Not sure yet. Not too good.

    Kelly Pavlik - Grade B+

    Chad Dawson - Not sure yet

    Jermain Taylor Grade B-

    Tommy Hearns Grade C+

    Bernard Hopkins Grade A

    Lennox Lewis Grade B-

    Wladimir Klitschko Grade B-

    Felix Trinidad - Grade B

    Joe Frazier Grade B-

    Roy Jones Grade C+

    Manny Pacquiao Grade B+

    Jaidon Codrington - Not sure yet
     
    Mendoza, Oct 13, 2007
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  15. Rollo

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    The only two punches that KO´d Lewis would´ve KO´d any heavyweight, except maybe the likes of Ali and Marion Wilson.
     
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