Would the chin experts of ESB care to grade the following chins?

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    The same line that folks always offer to try to excuse why a shaky-chinned fighter gets starched. It can't be proved - and when a fighter gets get taken out early twice, it looks even more ridiculous than usual! :lol:
     
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  2. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why the **** are certain people asking for Zakman to post in this thread, by the way :huh He's one of the most ignorant ****s on the board :deal
     
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  3. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Kid, I was probably following boxing when you were in diapers. The fans around here know and respect my knowledge of this sport and know I can spot a shaky chin when I see one!!:yep
     
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  4. elTerrible

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    I dont think that Hearns is as bad as its made out to be.

    His KO losses came to two all time greats and then to Barkley who was a larger fighter with decent power.

    His chin obviously was the weakest link for him but I think it was only average to just under average.
     
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  5. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Hops its hard to say. Its good no doubt, but he hasnt been caught with anything bad enough to be able to verify its granite.

    The worst shot hes ever taken is probably from Echols hitting him on the break when Hops hands were down.
    He didnt even flinch so he took it well, his chin is good.

    It hasnt been proven the way that McCall and Vitalis has been by taking some nasty shots from Lewis.
     
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  6. Rollo

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    come on - the punch that Rahman used to KO Lewis was equally powerful to the one that Frazier floored Ali with. And very few but Ali would have got up again.
     
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  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    How do you know that??:huh
     
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  8. Rollo

    Rollo Active Member Full Member

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    Don´t turn this into exact science. These discussions never are......
     
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  9. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm still waiting for Zakman's evaluation.
     
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  10. Punisher33

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    Zakman tell them Wlads chin is glass and not shaky, the man has been down like 12 times and has been TKOd 3 times already.
     
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  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Here is is:

    Joe Mesi - Glass

    Andre Berto - Shaky

    Allen Green - Shaky

    Kelly Pavlik - Average

    Chad Dawson - Average

    Jermain Taylor - Shaky

    Tommy Hearns - Shaky

    Bernard Hopkins - Iron

    Lennox Lewis - Shaky

    Wladimir Klitschko - Shaky

    Felix Trinidad - Good

    Joe Frazier - Good

    Roy Jones - Shaky

    Manny Pacquiao - Good

    Jaidon Codrington - Grade A China
     
    Zakman, Oct 13, 2007
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  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yeah, but he's never knocked cold. Guys with true glass chins get knocked the f*ck out, like Hasim Rahman or Fraudley. Wlad has been down, he's been stopped, but he's never been truly starched. That's exactly why he's rated "shaky" rather than "glass."
     
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  13. Punisher33

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    Jones has a better chin than Wlad, Wlad has been down more than any of the top 20 heavywieghts right now.
     
    Punisher33, Oct 13, 2007
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  14. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And BTW, I agree with pretty much every grade here, except I would make just a few changes..

    Mesi- China. I've seen him dropped and hurt by light hitting fighters, and everyone knows what happened against Jirov, who is powerful but usually scores KOs through volume, not single shots, and he's not even a real HW either.

    Lewis - shaky. You can make an arguement for glass but I'm just not buying it. The shots that Lewis took from Rahman and McCall weren't the only hard shots he's taken flush. And also, contrary to what some say.. McCall did not KTFO Lewis, it's highly debatable that the stoppage might've even been premature.
     
    RAMPAGE0017, Oct 13, 2007
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  15. Punisher33

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    Ok, but you cant tell me wouldve been knocked out cold if he would been allowed to continue in the Brewster fight or the Sanders fight?
     
    Punisher33, Oct 13, 2007
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