Would the giant killers be any good if they fought in a different era?

By definition people whoa re able to overcome much larger fighters at world level, are not only good, but good in a pound for pound sense as well.

This means that they are likely to enjoy considerable success in any era.

The advent of additional versions of the title, and additional weight classes, is only going to make things easier for them.

 

The "giant Killers" fought with smaller gloves and had consistent speed on their side. The bigger guys in those days were at the mercy of smaller fighters pace and the smaller gloves made more impression. Cutting them up and stopping them before they gassed out. The smaller fighter would often out-land the bigger fighter with a superior workrate before an advantage in size told. The ones that knew what they were doing were a step ahead.

When a smaller fighter fights a bigger guy today normally the smaller guy has to be better to start with and then even if he is he has to make an impression on the bigger man before he leans all over him. With bigger gloves the smaller dude has to land a lot more shots to make an impression. Too much is stacked against him. The window of opportunity is too small to make an impression with those gloves.

Also training today emphasizes spurt fighting. Saving everything up for shorter explosive bursts. Interval training, power, etc. Even the smaller fighters are carrying artificial weight. This gives the bigger man an edge because if his smaller foe has spent a lifetime rationing out his stamina to cope with artificial weight. It is less likely he will be worked so hard since he will need to rest part if a round too. It used to be the big guy rested part of the round and had to keep up with what was an unnatural pace for him. Not so now.

 

Dempsey was a vicious hungry fighter, I'd have to go with Tyson though, just for his speed. Now that would be box office !!

 

And Tyson's problem if he fought 'yesterday' would be that he (in comparison to Jack) would have been born in 1895 and when he hit prime wouldn't have been (nearly) the weight, size, and techican that we've seen. Had Dempsey been born mid-60's, he would have been a 215 lb. wrecking machine in his prime. And a 1920 version of the Klits, would have been smaller, with less musculature. Do I need to keep this era vs. era BS going? Give it a rest.

 

Are you claiming that there were no relatively short, compact 220lbs Black guys in Dempseys era? I am not talking about fighters necessarily, just Black guys that size in general. Sorry but I just don't buy this theory that everyone in the late 18's ,and early 19's was naturally smaller, and lighter than people born later in the 1900's. There have always been taller slimmer guys, just as there have always been shorter stocky guys. It is to do with genes, and breeding, nothing to do with calenders.

It is simply wrong for you to state categorically that if Tyson had been born in 1895 he MUST have been lighter by the age of 21 than he actually was though he was born in 1966.

I am NOT a Tyson fan by the way.

 

I have no doubt that if Louis were alive today he would crack Klitschko glass and be champ while stomping Wilder, Fury, and Povetkin into the unclean earth. But Dempsey is another matter. The big men he beat Fulton in one, Firpo in two, Willard in three, if those guys didn't have glass jaws he'd have been dragged into the deep water and hurt. I don't think he could handle ten rounds with guys those size. Louis was a bit bigger than Dempsey and probably more durable. He's got the early round KOs against big men like Dempsey, but he's also got the late round KOs that prove that he could hang in there and take the punishment.

 

Louis would eat Tyson up, Louis fought aggressively and unlike Lennox Lewis and Vlad K so while he did get dropped coming in he also got up to win, Lewis did not make it up on 2 occasions and never got up to win and Tyson never got up to win as well. Lewis and Douglas beat Tyson so did Holyfield. Joe Louis was the best combination power puncher ever and would be the best Tyson ever faced.

 

Mitch Green was in the top ten at the time he and Tyson fought.

 

Green was a ranked fighter.A ripped,muscular,fast fighter especially for his 6'5" height.
The 19 years old Tyson beat him easier than the prime Berbick.
I think nobody could knock Green out.
Green was much more athletic than the "fat-ass" Willard.
And i think he wasn't so fragile.

 

The 250 pounds isn't impossible especially in the steroid era.
Lots of powerlifter/weightlifter girl are stronger than wladimir k.
considering his chicken legs.
I can imagine a 250 pounds ripped muscular Marciano.
But a 250 pounds isn't a big guarantee.