Would the Klitschko's beat the ZIare version of Foreman

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  1. HOUDINI

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    McCall was another not so good contender from the 90s. An ATG in prime form usually triumphs over such lower level competition.
     
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    McCall would be beaten up until the ref stops the fight. foreman the far greater fighter.
     
  3. The Mongoose

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    What makes you think Wlad is quitter? Against Sanders and Brewster, the fight was stopped by the ref with him getting up from knockdowns and still trying to continue.

    In the 10 years since those fights he's been hurt against Williamson, Peter, Brock, Haye, and Wach, and showed acceptable survival skills and will to continue.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    No way, Foreman would knock him around the ring until the ref is forced to stop it.
     
  5. HOUDINI

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    May or may not be KD but certainly battered to a point where the ref stops it. A one sided thrashing.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    The timid Bruno had no problem knocking a prime Champion McCall around.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZnrwPAH32g[/url]

    Foreman probably wouldn't score a knockdown but he wouldn't let McCall bounce off the ropes like that, he would club him until the ref would be forced to step in.
     
  7. fists of fury

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    I watched the Wlad v Puritty fight the other night; ironically one of the few Wlad fights I hadn't yet seen.

    Having watched that fight, I felt somewhat sorry for Wlad actually. If he had been given his brothers chin, he'd be an absolute monster of a fighter. But the boxing gods deemed fit to bless him with an iffy mandible, and once again it came to the fore in that fight.

    He was really boxing very, very well against Puritty and throwing some lovely combinations and digging hard shots to the body. FAST pace for a heavyweight fight...I don't think there was a single clinch for the first 6 rounds.
    Wlad was very busy and moved very well and looked every inch the winner.

    But he and his corner were naive as well. No heavyweight can sustain that sort of pace forever and by the end of the sixth, the kid was visibly gassing. Yet, no change in strategy from Wlad at all, and he was still hell-bent on knocking out Puritty, who proved just about immovable as he stoicly continued plodding forward, catching a lot of leather but also proving able to take whatever Wlad dished out.

    Wlad's foolishness ultimately proved his undoing as by the end of the 9th he was spent, and Puritty started to land his own shots. A right hand in the 10th all but finished him, and it was only a matter of time in the 11th before Wlad's corner stopped it.

    It was a similar case in the first Brewster fight, with Wlad just unable to finish off a stubborn opponent who later caught up to him and finished him off rather quickly. That was with Manny in Wlad's corner as well.

    Would he fight differently against Foreman? Almost undoubtedly. Foreman's reputation as a monster puncher would proceed him and I'd imagine Wlad would fight a very cautious fight. He would certainly be more aware of his own limitations and attempt to control the pace of the fight and be more sparing with his punch ouput.

    Where I think Wlad comes unstuck a bit is that he is not a counter puncher. He leads. When on the back foot, he does not look to counter but rather looks to cover up, hold and clinch.
    Foreman is very susceptible to a sharp counter puncher because he leaves himself wide open sometimes, but Wlad, I dont believe, will be looking to counter Foreman, especially if big George is on the attack. He will be attempting to cover up, hold and spoil.

    Once reset, he'll try to establish the jab again and punch off that. I think it will be quite difficult to establish a decent rhythm though, because George is going to be advancing behind his own jab, maybe not in the same class as Wlad's, but a decent jab nonetheless, and he will have FAR more faith in his chin and will be more likely to throw power shots, which often came from unconventional angles.
    Once George throws bombs, Wlad will turn instantly defensive and attempt to tie up. I can see Foreman bullying him into the ropes or in the corner at times in the fight. Wlad does not possess the ring savvy of an Ali, nor anywhere near the same durability or belief in himself to sustain punishment.