Would this be as important as Foreman's victory over Moorer?

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  1. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    What if???

    What if Evander Holyfield got the chance to challenge for Maskaev's title, and won? It is not a crazy thought. Oleg fights like a big, less talented, Kostya Tszyu. That style seems in the realm of concurring for the old man. Would any of you give him the same credit Foreman got over Moorer?

    I wouldn't. I believe that when Moorer beat Holyfield, which was debatable, that Moorer was recognized as the top fighter in the division. Much like Klitschko is now. Holyfield would have to face Wlad, in order to find a similarity status wise. If Holyfield were able to beat Wladimir, then I think that would top big George's Moorer victory. That would be highly unlikely, and it is just too dangerous a fight for Evander to take.
     
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  2. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    maskaev would win an UD.
     
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  3. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Thanks for replying, Bad_Intentions. Maskaev might win, that is not what I am asking.

    I want to know if an Evander win would be considered a major accomplishment, much like Foreman's was.
     
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  4. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    maskaev is one of the best boxers in this era, so i would say it will be considered it a major accomplishment if holyfield beats him. especially at his age (44)

    ps - im sorry i didnt read your post complete, i thought it was a fantasy fight lol
     
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  5. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Moorer was the legitimate, linear world heavyweight champion and a better fighter than Maskaev. Maskaev is only a paper titlist. Foreman's accomplishment was easily better than Holyfield merely beating Maskaev would be.

    But if you're asking whether it would be important in general, then absolutely. Beating one of the best fighters in the division while you yourself are over a decade past your peak is a huge accomplishment.
     
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  6. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman carefully picked the weakest possible opponents for himself. Moorer was the top of this way of climbing up to get a title. If Holyfields wins the title again, it will be as important.
     
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  7. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wlads chin leaves window open for anyone
     
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  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Foreman's punch was arguably the last great moment in boxing, Holyfield/Masakev pales in comparison, unless Masakev walks into the ring as Heavyweight Champion of the World.
     
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  9. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman's way to the top was a disgrace, not a great moment in boxing. And I mean both times, the first and the second careers.
     
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  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does not matter how you got there (personally I would call it smart), but there is no doubting the Frazier championship win was awesome and the Moorer punch was simply amazing and the last time I saw a non British boxing story on the front page of a paper.
     
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  11. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    I agree with much of this ...:good
     
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  12. thunder06

    thunder06 Active Member Full Member

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    no it wouldnt.
     
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  13. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Moorer was undefeated and got the linear title from beating a young Holyfield

    Masquev has a bunch of losses and won the title against a scrub.

    There would be no comparison. If Holyfield beats Wlad that's another story
     
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  14. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Senya is a complete joke. He will do anything to diminish anyone whose career

    did not start before 1988. It's funny how you rip on Foreman for winning the title against two

    undefeated linear champions but you hold Ruiz in high regard because your lover Roy Jones

    beat him. Roy Jones would not make it past 3 rounds with either Fraizer or Moorer

    Roy Jones heavyweight claim is the biggest disgrace in the history of the sport
     
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  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Michael Moore eh? I reckon his conditioning would cost him against Jones... but you just know he will have a demon left!
     
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