Would THIS Klitschko have beaten Fury?

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  1. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    No Fury would have beat Wlad. Wlad didn't not throw enough punches just like he didn't against Fury. AJ is just easier to hit on his weak chin.
     
  2. Absolutely!

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    It's impossible to ever tell how much of a fighter's performance was down to them and how much was down to their opponent. Given that Wlad has long been one of the most consistent performers in the heavyweight division for years, I have a hard time believing that any out of the ring shenanigans would have seriously affected his performance inside it. Therefore, I have to conclude that his inability to pull the trigger on Fury was almost entirely down to what Fury was doing, and not what Wlad was unable or unwilling to do.
     
  3. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Stop what? Educating people?

    Fighters get up on their toes due to what their opponent is doing. Joshua was stalking Wlad so Wlad had to be on the backfoot. 2015, Wlad was stalking Fury so it was Fury doing the skipping and moving. That affected Wlad's activity. This is all very basic stuff that anyone with a cursory understanding of boxing would understand.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Fury is quicker than Klitschko now and has better reflexes.

    That means Wlad needs to knock him out or hurt him to win.

    The Wlad from the Joshua fight looked more willing to go to war but it's hard to say if he'd have forced the stoppage or not.

    A declined fighter facing a quicker, bigger opponent is never a good idea.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlads out-put spiked during the rounds AJ was out on his feet slumped around the ring. And Wlad still wasn't able to put him away.
    Fury would have to lay up against the ropes and give away all his movement and foot work for Wlad to have any chance of knocking him out.
    Other wise Wlad will be drawn forward again where he isn't effective.
    Its like people can't understand the styles that make fights anymore.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He was up on his toes against Fury as well. He was light on his feet and evasive from rounds 1 -12. He actually displayed the best stamina of his career in that fight.
     
  7. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This version of Wlad was more focused and aggressive so I see him landing more on Fury. in the 12th round he was finding a bit of success against Fury but it was too late. Its conceivable he could land the more meaningful punches as Fury wasnt exactly landing much.

    to be honest I am not overly impressed with Fury's win over Wlad, though effective it wasn't really a master class of out boxing, he didn't land enough for me. great movement and cunning to avoid getting knocked out himself but he really didn't put much hurt on Klitscko, more like he irritated and befuddled him. I think this Wlad would have a lot more success, he was moving more and with purpose.

    As well as this I think you have to give Wlad the benefit of the doubt somewhere, he wanted to fight Fury again to show he could do better, so to assume Tyson would beat him every time is a bit one dimensional thinking. Wlad was very willing to go again, so I penalise Fury more for not making that happen, rather than assume he has Wald's number every time they fight.
     
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  8. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe, maybe not.
    I have no idea when wlads prime was, probably much later due MS changing his entire fight game so far into his career.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're kidding yourself.

    Wlad was more confident and aggressive at Wembley.

    Against Tyson, both of those qualities diminish.

    The difference was the opponent he was facing.

    He stood off Tyson. Tyson feinted him and made him hesitant. He was ultra cautious. He wasn't used to facing a guy of Tyson's size, with that sort of movement, where he was switch-hitting etc. After the fight, he said he wasn't sure why he couldn't change tactics mid-fight. Before the fight, Tyson broke him psychologically and got inside of his head.

    Against Joshua, he was fighting a real threat, but one who was more hittable, with question marks surrounding his stamina. Although he was more dangerous than Tyson, he was easier to figure out.

    If you saw Wlad back in the ring with Tyson, he'd revert back to how cautious he was in Dusseldorf.

    Styles make fights.

    If Wlad was able to have fought Tyson in the same manner as he fought Joshua, he'd have showed us.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why didn't we see last nights Wlad in Dusseldorf?