Would Tommy Morrison Have Being Too Much For M. Spinks?

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Who takes it?

  1. Spinks?

    60.9%
  2. Morrison?

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  1. Boxing GOAT

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    If Spinks can scrape out two wins over Holmes, he can beat Morrison. I watched Morrison literally run from Foreman in that fight and nearly get decapitated by Mercer.
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I personally think Spinks threw the fight against Mike Tyson and that’s where a lot of this confidence in Morrison is coming from for a lot of people. But In all honesty anything could happen. Spinks’ run at heavyweight was very short and the quality of his time spent there was even shorter. Morrison was indeed a fast starter and a big hitter but also lost to Michael Bentt and was dropped twice by an old Williams who tired late. Again it could go either way
     
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  3. BCS8

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    If Spinks threw the Tyson fight then it would be huge in fantasy matchups like this one.
     
  4. Kamikaze

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    I don't think Michael would throw a fight in such a brutal fashion.
     
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  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes and, of course, there are some real similarities between Morrison, an aggressive, hard-punching, come-forward fighter, and a weary, flat-footed out-boxer, in his mid-30s, like Holmes.


    If Spinks had beaten Mercer, there might have been a relevant point to make here.


    So, Cooney - a drug addicted alcoholic, who had fought three times in five years (and not at all for over a year) was, at the time he fought Spinks, as good and as dangerous as Morrison? :lol:


    Who? Do you mean Vaulin - the guy Morrison stopped with a left to the body?


    Did the OP specify that Spinks should be matched against the worst version of Morrison possible?


    And?


    Boxers who run, generally don't land 40-50% of 500-600 punches thrown.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Of course, Spinks only had 5 fights as a heavyweight and the sum total of that is relatively underwhelming when rating him among significant heavyweights, all time or even around his own era.

    But what exactly did Tommy Morrison EVER do to be rated as highly as he seems to be on this forum ??

    "a jaded Holmes" (35 years old) is head and shoulder above the washed-up ex-contenders Morrison was fed (and often struggled with). By far Morrison's best win is a 44 year old Foreman, and against Foreman he was about the same as Axel Schulz.

    Morrison struggle badly with a washed-up Carl Williams (who was stylistically tailor made for a left hooker), and Spinks was as good as a prime Carl Williams.
    Both of them prime would have KO'd Morrison.
    Holmes in 1992 would have stopped Morrison, beat him at least, nevermind the 1985/'86 version.

    All the evidence points towards Morrison being closer to Steffen Tangstad's level, to be honest.
    Outside of that game-of-tag tap-and-run decision over old Foreman, there's not much there. Okay, he beat Joe Hipp, or whatever. Yuri Vaulin. It's not world level stuff at all.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    People mention Spinks was blown out in 91 seconds by Tyson, so it's absolutely fair game to mention Morrison had the same thing happen to him against Bentt, surely.
     
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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I haven't been and I'm not arguing a case for Morrison's legacy.

    Although, the fact people have to make light of Morrison's win over Foreman, as though it was some kind of flake job, when he did better against Comeback Foreman than anyone (save perhaps, Holyfield), is quite telling. Foreman would go on to regain the lineal Championship in his next Fight. He was as dangerous as he'd ever been during his comeback, when Morrison faced him.

    You've put forward some opinions about how you think Holmes, Spinks and Williams would knock Morrison out and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that Spinks never beat an aggressive, come-forward banger, in their prime, at Heavyweight. Morrison is a completely different prospect, in terms of the type of fight Spinks could expect, in contrast to that he had against an aging Holmes.

    Perhaps, if Spinks had beaten another ranked Heavyweight, after being gifted a decision in his Holmes rematch, we could know more. But we don't know - we just have to speculate on how he'd have handled the style and power of Morrison.

    Morrison often looked poor even though he also, more often than not, got the job done. But, if you think he is nearing the level of Tangstad then I don't know what else to say - other than I disagree.

    Morrison is a value-for-money bet.
     
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  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was that the worst version of Spinks at Heavyweight?
     
  10. mark ant

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    Unless Spinks knocks him out first.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tommy was nowhere near Tyson`s level.
     
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for reminding me.
     
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  13. Unforgiven

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    Undoubtedly.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Morrison wouldn't have been a ranked heavyweight in 1986 either.

    Spinks beat Cooney, a come-forward banger with a huge left hook and much bigger than Morrison.
    yes, we can say Cooney had seen better days, but Spinks still had to negotiate his size and aggression for a few rounds.
    I can't see Spinks having any more trouble with Morrison than he had with a past-prime Cooney.
    Morrison wouldn't have lasted longer than 5 or 6 rounds, realistically.
    Tangstad lasted 4, Cooney lasted 5, yes, okay, let's say Morrison might last 6.
     
  15. Fergy

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    Don't see it happening Mark.