Would Tommy Morrison Have Being Too Much For M. Spinks?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Apr 24, 2021.


Who takes it?

  1. Spinks?

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  2. Morrison?

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  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd back Tyson to take any version of Heavyweight Spinks out in the first round eight times out of ten.

    I 'd give Bentt a one-in-ten chance of stopping Morrison on a Three-KD-Rule, in the first, and he used that one up.
     
  2. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We don't know that.


    Cooney was a drunk burnout with only 7 rounds of competitive boxing, in 5 years, going into the Spinks fight. You are putting lipstick on a pig, here.


    Like I've already implied, you have an opinion and your entitled (and welcome) to it.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Tyson was a level above Spinks at least.
    And Spinks was several levels above Bentt and Morrison at least.

    If you want to give Morrison 9 hypothetical better results against Bentt that's fine, and put him a level or two above Bentt, fine.
    They are still levels below even Spinks, nevermind Tyson.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    Cooney was useless but he was favourite to beat Spinks actually. He was still capable of knocking out the kind of opponents Morrison knocked out, with very few exceptions.
    Morrison really wasn't much better. We're talking about a guy who struggled badly with some washed-up fighters.

    Honestly, if Morrison wasn't American AND white, no one would rate him at all. He probably wouldn't have even been given the decision against old Foreman, he'd be rated alongside Axel Schulz or Alex Stewart, where he belongs at best.
     
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  5. Man_Machine

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    Who was talking about levels? I wasn't.

    I had simply pointed out that using the worst version of Morrison in this fantasy matchup is not what was asked for by the OP.

    It was you, who decided to chime in with Spinks/Tyson.

    The difference being, one was a freak result, which was unlikely to have been repeated by Bentt; the other being something that was quite likley to have happened, no matter which Spinks turned up.
     
  6. Man_Machine

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    I'm not sure why you bring color and nationalism into it but, like I've said a couple of times already (and bear in mind I've not gone in hard on Morrison being a surefire winner, here) you are entitled to have your opinion on levels and who Morrison could be compared to and what Morrison could and could not have done in the 80s etc.

    I've provided the reasons why I think Morrison would be a good bet. It's a fairly straightforward argument. A deep-dive analysis is not really required.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    I'm not sure. I think the relevance of Bentt-Morrison is such that it helps us assess his abilities. His best win is a decision against an old Foreman, his worst loss is a 1st round KO against Bentt, both happened in 1993, around his prime.
    Bentt was nothing great at all, but honestly Morrison didn't beat a whole load of better HWs, so it's not an irrelevant loss either.
     
  8. Bigcheese

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    I'd favor Spinx to win late here. I dont really hold the Tyson fight against him, I think the same thing would have happened to Morrison against Iron Mike.
     
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  9. Man_Machine

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    What is there to assess, really?

    Morrison was what he was - a come-forward, hard-punching aggressor with little to no defense and an average chin.

    Morrison/Spinks wouldn't be some kind of chess match, during which a trial of tactical supremacy would be meted out.

    I think it unlikely that Spinks can stop Morrison so, for me, it's a simple case of whether Morrison is going to get to Spinks or not.

    I'd bet that he can.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Essentially, I have the same opinion. No doubt Spinks was p4p flat out better than Morrison but I think Tommy's size advantage is significant and he is stylistically a guy fighting in a style that Spinks had problems against. If Tommy was going to try and box Spinks how he boxed Foreman then Spinks would probably UD him. But I very much doubt that he would.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    You mean by taking all but two punches neither of which he did much to try and get out of the way ?
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    I know. It’s like the Bentt fight never happened when Morrison’s name comes up.
     
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  13. Gatekeeper

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    Can see both sides of the argument on this

    For me what it comes down to is Morrison didn't have too much offensively other than that excellent left hook, would a master boxer like Spinks be able to avoid that for 12 rounds ?? That's what it all hinges on and most of the time a good boxer beats a good puncher so I'll go with Spinks but Morrison has a very good chance here.
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    Spinks was trying his best to hurt Tyson. That doesn't happen in a fix.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

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    I agree. Spinks only went down against an absolute peak Mike Tyson. Tommy Morrison was down at least 13 times in his career against all sorts of good and not-so-good guys. And Morrison was usually gassed after the third. In fact, Morrison (sucking air like he needed oxygen between rounds) outpointed Foreman by mimicking what Spinks did against Holmes.

    Spinks was the teacher and an expert at pacing. Morrison would be in over his head.

    Morrison would come out fast, like always, and, by round 3, Spinks would step on the gas and take control. I see Morrison coming apart like Cooney and Tangstead did. The middle rounds weren't kind to Tommy. (LOL)

    Spinks by TKO.
     
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