Would Tommy Ryan have done anything different if he was with Jeffries for the Fitzsimmons rematch?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Ryan was an imperfect trainer but his coaching basically won Jeffries the title. The crouch and counter punching was a code Fitz couldn’t crack by his own admission.

    However, in the rematch Fitz slaughtered Jeff’s face and hit him at will. Jeffries was far more aggressive in comparison to their first encounter due to Fitz’s movement. Could Ryan have gotten Jeffries to pursue a less damaging approach?
     
  2. Melankomas

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    I would make two observations.

    Tommy Ryan mismanaged the first Corbett fight, which was why he was replaced.

    Fitzsimmons clearly changed his tactics radically for his second meeting with Jeffries, and used tactics more like Corbett.

    I think Jeffries needed to get Fitz out of there.
     
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  4. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends on whether you prefer Jeffries as more of a cautious methodical boxer with a punch, or an aggressor who walks in on guys and applies relentless pressure and body punching to wear them down and knock them out much more quickly, but also subjects himself to being hit more. Jeff would say he was hit, but not effectively. He'd probably also say that he applied the style necessary to win, and adapted to his opponent and the conditions. Fitz attacked in their first contest, got stopped in 11, and then power-boxed in the rematch., did more visual damage, but got stopped in 8. Jeff boxed and countered in their first contest, and attacked in their second. Corbett stuck and moved in their first contest, and Jeff was content to be methodical, boxing and walking him down gradually, until he applied more pressure late to score the knockout. In their rematch, Corbett attacked and held his ground more, Jeff attacked more but did so while showing improved boxing skill, and stopped him much more quickly. Jeffries was a winner with both styles, and was versatile.
     
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