Would Tyson have betrayed and left Cus?

Cus would control him better than anyone, he would still get in trouble but I think it would be a lot of less than he did.

And no, he would never betray Cus.

 

True, it seems Rooney was not a person easy to deal with.

 

The thing with Rooney as well is that he knew Tyson as a person, he knew his mood swings and stubbornness. So you would think he would be a bit smarter about the Givens and King thing. I agree with what was said about it being difficult for him to watch that stuff but he must have known that talking to the press was not going to go down well with Mike. It seemed like he wanted to show Mike how wrong he was but with the ego he was dealing with he should have just sat back and done his job.

I think the Angelo Dundee was the way to go. He cared about Ali immensely, loved the man, he saw him getting screwed left right and centre but he stuck with Ali, he knew talking him out of anything would fall on deaf ears, so he accepted it and supported him in his own way and maintained that great relationship in doing so.

Rooney and Tyson should have been together until the end, they had such a great chemistry, Mike trusted him in that ring, losing that kind of support in a tough fight is massive, no corner man trust or respect. Real tragedy their parting was.

 

All I know is that Tyson signing with King was a very dumb move. King needed Tyson more than visa versa. Tim Witherspoon and Tony Tubbs had both recently had fallen out with King and the conflict of interest, whereby Don promoted and Carl King managed, was well known. I think he may have listened to Cus and Jacobs regarding all the BS Givens and King were feeding him.

 

Why not he did everyone else.

 

I doubt it. D'Amato was his svengali as well as his trainer and mentor. He would have probably paid that actress bird off instead of letting Tyson marry her.

 

Very possible ... I find it interesting that the world weary Tyson still, publicly holds Cus in such heart felt displays because he should know by now that Cus , even though I'm sure cared about Mike to some degree, was simply the first to spot the goldmine potential and did everything to be the guy that rode it for whatever was his own personal agenda ..

 

Funny thing but years after Cus death Mike Tyson's wife found a bank book in his name with $250,000 in it and they found out it was Cus putting money on the side for Tyson. Cus knew Mikes character but it was not money that Cus cared about he wanted to mold a champion and he cared for Mike.

King got into Tyson brain and twisted it, He surrounded him with sycophants and slime, they took his brain and took him from the evil White men he was making millions with and the rest id history

I think the bond was strong between Cus and Mike though and as long as Cus was around Mike would have been....shame he was not ready to fly the coop without his mentor

 

Mike Tyson had a tendency to act up even with Cus D'Amato, Teddy Atlas, Jimmy Jacobs, Kevin Rooney and Bill Cayton in the picture. But Tyson seemed to have a fairly solid bond with the group of people who were mentoring, managing and training him as long as D'Amato or Jacobs was alive. Don King didn't get control of Tyson and Rooney didn't cease to be Tyson's trainer until both D'Amato and Jacobs had passed away.

- Chuck Johnston

 

This is one of the more cynical posts I've read. Cus took Tyson out of the ghetto where he was sure to become a statistic and gave him some hope and direction. If not for Cus, we wouldn't even be discussing Tyson at all.

 

And you have got the brass neck to talk about other people being " emotional "

You're a joke.

 

Bobby Stewart, a juvenile detention center counselor and a former professional boxer, recognized Mike Tyson's potential as a boxer at Tryon's School For Boys and trained him for a few months before introducing him to Cus D'Amato. While D'Amato proved to be a pivotal person in Tyson's development as a fighter, one can't conclude that Tyson wouldn't have become a top fighter without D'Amato. After all, a boxer with Tyson's potential may have attracted attention from other boxing managers.

- Chuck Johnston

 

And he did this for Mike over any other possible troubled kid why exactly ? Do your homework .. Ask Teddy Atlas how Cus let Mike get away with murder so that it would not upset the applecart .. whose long term best interest was that for ?