Would u agree: Vitali was fading quick against Lennox

that's because ithe majority see it as a legitimate Tko (in 6).

 

Ref stopped the fight in fear of Vitali's eye popping out. It doesn't get much worse than that.

Bottom line - TKO 6.

 

Stoppage on cuts determines who wins the fight. Similar to come from behind knockouts. It doesn't matter who is better. What matters is who wins the fight.

But it is legitimate. You're arguing and saying it could have been this or should have been that. You can't do that, because the facts outweigh your opinion on how it "could've" ended.

The last couple rounds proved that Lennox had taken control of the fight. No matter how you slice it, the win is legitimate.

 

Yes of course it is. Prime for prime Lennox beats the Ukrainian statue with or without cuts.

 

Since the cut was opened by a legitimate punch and worsened by more legitimate punches, as the fight progressed, one must surely question the tactics and or the capabilities of Vitali - should they not?

Klitschko was up against a world class operator in Lennox Lewis but his approach to the fight would indicate that he hadn't taken this into account. This circumstance still seemed not to have dawned on him, even after landing some big shots in the second round, which didn't manage to put Lewis away. All the while, Vitali was leaving himself open, staying easily within range and getting caught by the higher quality work of Lewis.

When Vitali received the cut at the beginning of the third, he still insisted on slugging it out with Lewis, which ultimately lead to him taking significant punishment; not only to his eye but his head in general (leading to more facial damage). Klitschko's corner, the ref, the crowd and the TV viewers must have seen the inevitability of what was to come. He didn't appear to.

Lewis had from the outset, whilst being outworked, delivered the better punches; was more accurate; more damaging, in half the output. I think this makes Lewis the better fighter.

 

That is one heck of a post.

 

Lewis the better fighter? He was down 4-2 on all three score cards. This means a dead tired Lewis would need to win four of the next six rounds on at least two cards to draw if the fight wasn't stopped on a cut.

Speaking of the cut, Lewis used an illegal backhand swipe over Vitali's eye region. The punch itself lands on an area that appears to be near Lewis Plam. Laces. You can't tell me 100% the punch alone caused the cut. In fact was the punch legal to score?

Standard Rules:

[url]http://boxing.isport.com/boxing-guides/boxing-rules-regulations[/url]

Only the knuckle portion of the glove is allowed make contact with the opponent.

Um, that did not happen here!


view the punch below under

Vitali Klitschko Cut Controversy

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There was no re-match. As you say in the UK, Lewis didn't have the bottle for it, even though his mouth ran 24 x 7

 

I cant tell you 100 percent that the cut was only caused by a punch (or two), however, you cant tell us 100 percent that it wasn't,,,

the fact is LL hit Vits with a couple of HUGE shots and most likely those shots caused the cuts even if we cant be 100 percent certain.

Lets be fair Mendoza :bbb

Don't get me wrong dude, I thought Vits fought a great fight and deserved a rematch but that's boxing dude, if LL was 10 years younger and in the middle of his career and wanted to keep fighting without giving a rematch I would call him out on it but that wasn't the case, LL wanted to retire rather than keep fighting and I wont ever hate on a guy for that.

 

Latineg,

Did you see where the punch landed? is that legal? Is the backhand swipe legal? Check the link I posted and please reply.

Lewis has a history of not giving re-matches in tough fights. See Bruno, or Mercer, which happen years before he retired.

If Lewis said I'm retired after the fight, I'd have no issues. The fact is he ran his mouth, said he'd re-match multiple times, tried to make other fights ( Roy Jones and Kirk Johnson ), and only retired when the WBC ordered the re-match.

Hmmm....

 

I saw it, it just wasn't conclusive to me therefore I cant just conclude it was the foul that caused the cut rather than those HUGE shots that plastered Vits face.

Ok Ok, fine LL ran his mouth after the fight a bit, but regardless he still retired and at 38 (whatever age he was, my memory is not so sharp anymore) and that is SMART imo.

Put it this way, I like both fighters, maybe Vits would of beaten LL in a rematch? Very possible but regardless LL was at the end of his time and imo was starting to slip so I think it was great he was smart enough to retire instead.

 

Klanman gives his version of events that do not reflect reality

 

Though I totally agree with your sentiments, what you are claiming is not strictly true.

Here is why.

I don't think that suggests there was any fear of Vit's eye " popping out " but the fact that he had to lift his head to even see out of the eye, is plenty good enough reason to stop the fight.

 

No, I don't agree with the TS conclusion. His eye was fading badly that much I'll say. However, if you look at them at the end of the last round, Lewis certainly looks for tired to me

 

Yes, Lewis was the better fighter. The scorecards became immaterial once the stoppage was called. He didn't need to win any more rounds, either - the fight was over. He'd caused the cut with a legitimate punch and continued to do the better work, opening more cuts and taking the fight out of Vitali, along the way.

People tend to get caught up in the 'condition of Lewis' and 'the cut', overlooking the quality-level of Vitali's boxing . They assume because he was up on the scorecards, giving the compubox kids plenty to do, he was doing well and winning the fight. On paper he was; in the ring he wasn't.

 

why bother putting in the effort to win on points once you know you can easily stop your opponent?

It is completely obvious to everyone except you that after round 2, Lewis traded off pursuing a win on points for instead selecting to easily stop his opponent within half the distance. Its not rocket science.

And so, as is now common knowledge, WORST EVER lewis stopped PRIME BEST ever vits inside LESS THAN HALF the fights distance.


It seems you require someone to win BOTH on points AND by TKO too. How laughably impossible is that.