Would u consider Oscar De La Hoya an ATG?

If he fought Pac and lost to him but won the next fight and was robbed. He would have been vindicated but the fans of his would be pissed as would any fans.

Say he fought Mosley next and lost, got ko'd and retired. Came back and knocked Margo out and then lost to Cotto on his last fight.


Then yes, going by his total record, not just last five fights, he would be considered an atg. I just feel Mayweather's great work is at the beginning of his career not at the end.


Mosley has as many losses as DLH.
Hopkins does too.

RJJ has 6 losses and was knocked out three times.

 

He beat Tito and he fought Mosley when he was on roids - winning the 2nd one in most people's eyes. Great overall resume.

Depending on how long you'll let your list be, he should be an ATG.

 

:rofl:rofl:roflatschatschatschatsch

 

What are you giggling at, schoolgirl?
You don't feel Mayweather did enough at 130-140 to be considered atg?
What about DLH 130-147?

 

Mayweather has not done enough to be an all time great, although he is close. And I am a mayweather fan.

I am laughing at your scenario for Mayweather to be an ATG which is hilarious. And you STILL did not answer my question. You made up your own scenario and answered your own question u dingleberry.

Oscar hasn't won when it mattered the most, so therefore he is NOT an all time great.

 

The scenerio was Hoya's latter career, just switching out the names, so it does have significance.

You must have very very high standards for ATG cuz I lost track of this awhile ago.
Hopkins, no.
RJJ, no.
Mayweather, no.
DLH, no.
Mosley, no.

Who the hell you have as ATG then, Pac man? I agree he's been spectaculor, but there's been some clever orchestration there as well by his team.

 

You're a moron. Straight up.

Oscar lost to:

Mosley
Hopkins
Pacquaio
Mayweather

ALL P4P top 5 when Oscar fought them, two P4P#1, and one P4P#2. All but 1 of those losses were when Oscar was PAST HIS PRIME.

Oscar has fought and beat Vargas, Trinidad, Whitaker, Chavez, Quartey, Leija, Paez, Ruelas, Campas, Camacho, Castillejo, Gatti, Molina, Mayorga etc...

Lets look at Pacquaio's record since you consider him an ATG.

Pac lost to:

Journey man 1
Journey man 2
Agapito Sanchez
Past Prime Erik Morales

All those losses in his physical prime.

Pac beat MAB, EM, Cotto, David Diaz, Hatton, ODLH, Larios.

Does that answer your ****ing stupid question?

 

I dont know where u got those answers from. but my answers to your little list right there.

Hopkins - yes
RJJ - yes
Mayweather - not yet
Mosley - yes but barely
DLH - hellz no. Fraud!!!!!

 

ATG.....no way

 

Read the rest of my post that you had doctored earlier to laugh at the only part you wanted to read.

 

You're a stupid ****ing ******!

You're all over the place with this ****, and you don't even know what the **** and how the fick to rank anyone do you???

Mosley "yes" but barely, but DLH no????

Mayweather not yet, but RJJ a dfitnate yes???!!

****ing ******.

elqueiros, did you know you were arguing with a handicapped kid?? :!:

 

First of all, You show me where I said that Pac is an all time great u little fruit boy. I will not make that decision till i know whether he was on the juice or not.

You forgot to add trinidad to Oscars losses you added him as a win, im glad he lost to trinidad cuz he shouldnt have got on his bike like a *****. You also forgot to mention that santa claus was judging his fights with sturm and sweet pea, cuz he got gift decisions. the rest of those losers on that list of wins dont give you ATG status.

The rest of your post was bull****, which is why i initially ignored it.

 

Mosley won some of his big fights, unlike ODH. but i can see why some people would not put him up there.

RJJ can be debated, ill give you that, but i consider him an ATG. No body could **** wit him in his prime.

Mayweather is still in the middle of his career, when its over he will be an ATG.

dont get pissy cause you are swinging from ODH's clitoris.

 

You're dumber that I thought.

Even if you remove that Robbery with Trinidad. ODLH fought and beat a higher caliber of fighters than Mosley and RJJ.

I want to see HOW you ranked MOsley higher. :yep

 

not at all