Would Usyk Be A Stylistic Nightmare For Ali?

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yup, calling someone out for dishonesty, is far worse than dishonesty itself. Do you hear yourself?

    By the way, the only person clutching their pearls is the guy resorting to insults when called out on his mistake.
     
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  2. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    It was highly entertaining per sure. And gladly, I got the outcome I was hoping for. Seeing Fury doing the drunk cha-cha in the 9th was an added bonus. So bad the crooked referee saved Fury's bacon.

    IMO for several reasons it fell quite short of being an All-Time-Classic, but I can live with "Modern Classic".
     
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  3. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No
     
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  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I got the outcome I predicted. However it was closer than the 8-4 score I predicted and was 7-5 with a knockdown. Imo. I know some have it wider. I don’t believe the ref was crooked, I think he factored in Fury’s recuperation powers from previous bouts as well as the magnitude of the fight itself. I was happy with the ref. I do believe Usyk winning was better for the sport. With Fury too many delays and shenanigans had worn thin. The only really downside is Usyk being 37 already he doesn’t really have anytime left to give the fans more great fights. Wish both guys had been 3 years younger.
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Agreed. But it could turn into a Big Fight Hangover for Usyk, but I want to wait before commenting, Who knows? Usyk could very well be up to the rematch and kayo Fury this time.
     
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  6. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    In that point we will have to agree to disagree. IMO at that stage of the fight the referee either a) stopped the fight and declared Usyk the winner or b) do nothing, let the fight continue undisturbed and see if Fury could make it to the end of the round.

    Right call, honest mistake, fix, bias, whatever. That was a huge potential point of controversy, but since Usyk won all the same is now seen as a minor issue.

    But had Fury managed to rally and defeat Usyk, you can bet the whole boxing forum would be in flames.
     
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  7. Blaxx

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    And Usyk has faced some adversity in each of his heavyweight fights of note, including against Chisora. There's a whole lot of controversy surrounding his fight with the then 24 year old(?) Dubois too where he showed a bit of a soft underbelly there. The good thing with more fights is it tells us how Ali would react to adversity too, we know Ali would fight through a broken jaw and Usyk would roll around a little from a punch to the belly.
     
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  8. themaster458

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    The only ones he had legit adversity was the second Joshua fight and the Fury fight and he overcame both showing his ability to preserve and dig deep against way bigger men. Chisora got outboxed and won 3 rounds max and Dubois got beat so bad he had to resort to low blows just to stay in the fight and when that didn't work quit.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He wasnt memorable but he was a Southpaw.lol
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No big thing.
     
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  11. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Usyk and Fury should be 3 years younger.
    Pedquiao and Fairweather should be 7 years younger.
    Duckelo and Benavidez should be 2 years younger.

    The endemic ducking and procastinating have killed most of my interest on modern boxing.
     
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Come on, now. Be fair.

    Usyk only acts up/rolls around for as long as it takes an easily convinced ref to give him what he wants - whether that's a break in the action, the time he doesn't need to recover or just a simple ticking off given to the bemused opponent.

    Credit where it's due. Usyk has got that faked indignation down to a T.
     
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  13. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Dunn is memorable for simple fact that he was the last opponent Ali got a KO win over.
     
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  14. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didn't face much adversity vs Chisora losing 2 rounds than dominating the rest of the fight on most peoples scorecards.

    The cruiserweights he faced are as big as past heavyweights so why the obsession with his heavyweight exploits? He was past his peak at heavyweight anyway.
     
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  15. Man_Machine

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    It's more likely that, on average, Chisora was viewed as having won four of the eight rounds, meaning some saw more than that and others less. But the point is that Chisora's tactics were making an argument for the rounds - more so than Joshua's, for example.

    So, yes, Usyk did face a surprising amount of adversity against Chisora.
     
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