Would Whyte be easier fight than Ortiz for Wilder?

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  1. Thecheckjab

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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course it would, Whyte is less skilled, easier to hit and isn't a southpaw. Wilder KO4.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Of course it would. Which is why no one without any agenda to see Joshua protected is interested in seeing that fight.

    Ortiz is better technically, better chin and greater power, more awkward as southpaw.

    Whyte is a decent boxer, but his power is overrated. The punch that put Browne down that everyone was drooling over, was more due to momentum and fatigue on Browne's part. It was more of a slap down punch.

    Other than that he couldn't ko chisora, Allen or Helenius.
     
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  4. Scissors

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    Yeah it would and 3/4 times the pay day. If I was Deontay I’d get this signed up ASAP and insist on AJ next in the contract.
     
  5. Max Thunder

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    Ol' Luis is better in every possible way. Both Wilder and Luis would put Joshua's performance against Whyte to shame. And yes, the current Whyte is also better than the Whyte back then.
     
  6. Above Deck

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    Ortiz would embarrass Whyte. Different level. So yes, Ortiz would be the harder fight for Wilder. I had Ortiz winning comfortably up until the KO.
     
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  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Already has but Hearn can't provide that guarantee.
     
  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz's punching power is even more overrated. He never knocked out any top opponent unconscious or put them to sleep.

    Bryant Jennings was a premature stoppage and that was his best opponent.
     
  9. Holler

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    Easier technically, potentially harder physically. Whyte is 29, not 38, he has a decent chin and some boxing ability. He's good but not great in other words,

    If wilder is what many believe then he will easily beat him. There's still a question about that however, I think Wilder's being overrated on the basis of a suspect resume and the win against an aging, and himself unproven, Ortiz.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    A bit like Joshua then.

    Change Ortiz around with Wlad and you have the same story.
     
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  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Yes agreed. Although Joshua's resume, particularly taking age and experience into account is more persuasive.
     
  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Right......so why did Joshua duck him then if his power is overrated?
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why did Ortiz duck Wladimir Klitschko in his 19th fight?
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Yes matchroom hype and gloss certainly makes it more persuasive.

    I mean Charles martin, Molina and Breazelle and the 38 year old Takum are real monsters that deserved to be on ppv.

    :clap:
     
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  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    You didn't answer a question with another question.

    I'll play anyway. Ortiz ducked Klitschko because he knew he wouldn't stand a chance.

    Now why did Joshua duck Ortiz and now on his way to ducking Wilder?

    Ortiz wasn't even mandatory to Wilder yet he volunteered to fight him.
     
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