Would Wilder have matched Holmes unbeaten run if he fought Larry`s opposition?

Any fighter that flails like a girl the moment he's tired, and usually tired before he reaches the 6th rd doesn't do well against any top 10 competition from 20yrs, to 60yrs ago. They may do well with competition prior to 60 yrs ago, but that's only because the sheer advantages of their size, Not because of their fighting skills. Wilder and Joshua with their current skill level wouldn't be considered championship level fighters yrs ago. So yes they may do well with certain fighters Holmes fought , like Ocasio, Evangelista ,Spinks, but others like Witherspoon,Williams,Snipes,Shavers,Smith, I could see both of them losing too.

 

This is the first time I've ever seen anyone talk about Earnie Shavers, Renaldo Snipes and Bonecrusher Smiths' "skill level."

Yeah, Bonecrusher, in his first 14 fights, reminded everyone of Wilfred Benitez ... when Smith was losing to James Broad Axe Broad, and squeaking by Chris McDonald and losing 9 straight rounds to Frank Bruno. We all marveled at Bonecrusher's "skill."

(Oh man.)

Deontay Wilder beats everyone Holmes beat in his first 40 fights.

He most likely kos all 40. But maybe Wilder breaks a hand on one of their noggins and the guy lasts the distance.

Otherwise, Wilder beats them all convincingly.

Even the great RENALDO SNIPES (who couldn't seem to figure out Scott Frank.)

OH ... you left out Scott Frank. Don't forget his defensive wizardry.

 

I say Wilder gets KO'd doing Holmes' resume when he gets to Jerry Judge.

 

You'd take Trevor Berbick over Wilder?

You guys are just embarrassing yourselves now. Everyone beat Trevor Berbick.

S.T. Gordon beat Berbick.

 

Lost to S.T. Gordon, Renaldo Snipes, Carl Williams, Hasim Rahman, Bernardo Mercado, Tony Larosa, Lyle McDowell, Jimmy Thunder, Buster Douglas ... drew with Leroy Caldwell ... won a split decision against Johnny Warr.

But he beats Deontay Wilder?

"Mauls" Wilder?

Whatever man.

 

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Context?

Speaking of context, can I ask why the hell everyone keeps bringing up Carl The Truth Williams?

Did Carl suddenly become an all-time great in the last week, and I missed it?

Jesus Christ. How many times was that guy on the floor in his career? 30? Or more? Seriously?

Jerry Jones knocked out five people, and he had Williams on the deck TWICE.

Yet Carl Wiliams is going to defeat Wilder?

If you can't judge fighters realistically, the discussion is pointless.

 

I’d favor Wilder over every single fighter Holmes fought until Tyson or Michael Spinks, including a green Tim Witherspoon.

There’s something to be said for Holmes’ consistency though, and we also have little idea about how Wilder will perform deeper into his 30s.

So he probably wouldn’t match Holmes, but it isn’t impossible either.

 

Also, this thread is how would Wilder do against the opponents in Holmes' unbeaten run.

I watched Holmes' whole career, and I don't recall Holmes going unbeaten against Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Hasim Rahman or Buster Douglas.

Against the guys Holmes beat in his streak, I don't see Wilder losing to any of them.

Certainly not Michael Spinks. Or Carl Williams. Or Renaldo Snipes. Or Earnie Shavers. Or Lorenzo Zanon or Jerry Judge or Trevor Berbick or any of them mentioned earlier.

 

Spinks would have a chance of sneaking a decision over an aging Wilder.

 

But that's the point, you don't need to be an ATG to defeat a Wilder or Joshua. But your entitled to your opinion. But if your on this site, don't get so bent out of shape because others don't agree with you.

 

Wilder has fought two ranked opponents one took him the distance and the other had him hurt bad at 38 years of age (if not older) without really knowing how good he is off peds.
Holmes fought prime live contenders I would pick - Witherspoon, Smith, Cooney, and Spinks if he is counted to all have good chance to KO wilder. I would probably pick someone from the way up too, to pick off Wilder as well from Holmes early career since Wilder was getting dropped by guys like Dustin Nichols (flash kd) and Sconier (hurt) and fighting guys like Jason Gavern in his 30 something pro fight.

Wilder’s Run hasn’t been close to Holmes AT ALL and it’s pretty insulting to Holmes career. What’s next Wilder’s resume is better than Holmes lmao
Pure agenda driven garbage.
Wilder’s resume is still garbage impossible to make him go 48 and 0 against the men Holmes fought.
I’m even conceding some heavies they have good shot to Ko wilder like Shavers and Norton because of their chin and Weaver. All of them would be live scary opponents for Wilder who was rocked by Eric Molina and struggled with cruiser Szpilka.

I say Wilder loses at least 3-4 times minimum with Holmes ledger at 48-0

 

Wilder is too hittable. A guy like Shavers would have done a little jig of joy at the prospect of sending some atom bombs over the top into Wilder's gob.

 

Way too hittable. His footwork is poor, no way does he get through Weaver, Spinks, Cooney, Norton, Shavers, Smith, Berbick, Witherspoon, without a loss. Not to mention other guys. Wilder struggled with Duhaupas who can’t crack an egg.
It’s crazy to think he doesn’t pick up a few losses not just one but several.

 

Snipes, Norton, Weaver beat him. He could KO Cooney, then again Cooney could KO him.
Shavers might KO him, then again Shavers could KO him.

So definitely three guys beat him, 2 guys it's 50/50.