Would Wlad KO Sam Peter in a rematch??

Peter was stunned for one second, leaving KLIT no time to capitalize...he didn't need to hold, or retreat as KLIT did time and time again, when faced with the crushing reality of a punch from Sam Peter. Sam stayed in the fight even in his second of adversity.

Nobody is claiming otherwise.

Peter now has a steady effective jab and vastly improved footwork.

 

I disagree. I think that JT looked so bad in their last fight that he made peter look better than he really was.

 

I make no such claim of hatred. I stay out of more than half of the KLIT threads anyways. You should not be so opposed to the presentation of truth in these threads, that would otherwise be blind homoerotic praise and admiration for the would be Tag Team champs of boxing. Who made you a mod anyways...???

I am fair with the KLIT's. At least moreso than biased fanboys such as yourself are capable of seeing.

 

I understand your reasoning, and look forward to the Maskaev match answering any lingering questions you may still have as to Sam Peter's improvement. :smoke

 

From Peter and Wlad, I think Wlad getting a little bit better, but it will not be enough to KO Peter.
Wlad landed everything he can on Peter in the first fight, so I think UD for Wlad is the most possible outcome secound time around.

 

I'll say this now so that when it happens peopel don't say that I'm just making **** up after the fight. How peter performs against Maskaev is no indication whatsoever of how he will do against Wlad. Maskaev does not have the height and reach of Wlad, he does not have the handspeed, the technical skill, or the punching power.

 

not that i give him a very big chance, but it would be hilarious to see so many cocky ****ers eating crow if Maskaev did win. how quickly i can see them all jumping ship and start trumpeting what an overrated one trick pony he is, and how Wlad is a ***** for not having put him away in the first place. :yep

 

Anybody who does not think peter can beat wlad is crazy. I mean, we all know peter can hurt him. Knocking him down three times in one fight. I mean with Wlad its like this. You have to knock him out or he is going to win on points and knock you out. If peter is in halfway good shape he would always be a threat. And yes Wlad stunned peter for a hot second. But Wlad was on ***** street for in almost any occasion through the whole fight as Suge said. I mean watch the fight again..lol

 

If Peter fights the same way he did the first fight and that's just coming forward eating bombs to try and land one then chances are he will get at least knocked down in a rematch. Peter needs to use his jab, move and block those bombs to have a chance to win this fight. Looking to land 1 big punch isn't the right choice, especially not against Wladimir right now, the Brewster rematch is the proof.

 

We all know that Peter has an iron chin but he just won't be able to take the same bombs over and over you know, the body won't handle it. He already took VICIOUS punches that could KO almost everyone in the division right now for 12 full rounds, just take one punch that Wladimir landed on Peter and say he lands it on anyone else in the division right now and they'll be finished. Peter just took too much and fought stupid in the first fight even though the knockdowns made it close for it, he needs to use his jab, block those bombs and find a way to land his, that way he might be able to guarantee a late round stoppage or win by decision.

 

My point was that the Maskaev fight should prove how lasting and progressive Peter's improvements are, not how he'll do against KLIT.
Remember, I was countering the claim that he has not improved, it will be proven either way shortly.

Peter has already shown he can hurt KLIT, and make him run all night and still lose by points. All Peter needs to prove is that he can beat KLIT, something that won't be proven facing other opponents.

 

Samuel is a whole different and versatile boxer since the first fight.. I say he would avoid the stiff shots Wlad brings and Wladimir will be more respectful of Peter.. Samuel has the best chin and is a lot more driven now.. Samuel by stoppage .. later rounds.. He almost did it in the first fight..

 

atsch Its the same old SAM ! In fact SAM doesnt look as good to me since he fought and took the beating from VLAD ! SAMS only chance is to take chances and be wild ! If SAM trys to use the jab he gives VLAD a chance to set up and SAM will get whacked !:deal

 

Sam has the obvious edge in the chin dept. (btw I think Wlad has an average chin, not "china"), but WK is a more skilled boxer. Both are big punchers. Right now I'd break the outcome probabilities this way:
WK by T/KO - 30%
SP by T/KO - 20%
WK by Dec. - 45%
SP by Dec. - 5%

WK 3:1 favorite in a rematch. Both fighters get lots of grief on ESB because they're not from the US - WK extra grief because he doesn't conform to many (US) fans "image" of a top HWT. Btw I'm an American who has been reading this site for 3+ years and have been following the sport for 40+ years (won't count what I saw when I was 10 or younger). Don't let my post count fool you. I often hang around a site for years before joining and then posting. I'm well aware of many of the top posters on ESB, and their views. Of course I agree/disagree with many, and with others it's a mixed bag.

 

Hit the nail on the head, IMO.

Those pining for the days of American HW dominance are the same ones who now expend incredible amounts of energy trying to convince anyone who will listen (and many who won't) how "pathetic" the HW division is, now that Americans aren't ruling the roost.

Appropriate response: *Yawn*

Sports are cyclical, as the NBA and it's infusion of international talent continues to show us. Nobody gets a free pass based on past achievements. A lot of the Eastern Euros doing well at HW just want it more right now, which is why they come to fight in shape while guys like Peter, Rahman (Maskaev II), etc. look like blimps on a lay-over. Toney (I think) said as much. Well, if that's the case then Americans need to start taking the game more seriously again.

Say what you want about Evander "Evan Fields" Holyfield, but that guy never cheats himself because he didn't train hard. Even the 'great' Lennox Lewis had the motivation problem.

Valuev comes in shape. The Klitschkos come in shape. Maskaev comes in shape. That's one reason they win as much as they do.

Stop whining and stop eating, US heavyweights (and Sam Peter).