Would Wladimir from the Wach fight have beaten Joshua and Fury?

Joshua maybe. Fury had, has, and always will have Wlad's number.

 

yes

 

Fury ran away from the rematch and was probably on roids.

 

Nope,
The wlad against Aj was the most determined, in as great shape ever and wanted to win more than ever.

Wlad knew exactly how huge a win could had been.. Aj got caught rushing in chin exposed, survived 2 rounds of pummeling only to come back and win.

They could fight 10 separate times in 10 separate years and it's not a given he ever lands any of those left hooks and especially not the straight right in round 6 with his entire body twisting into in throughout every part from foot to head.

It's seldom fighters land their best shot in the perfect spot with everything into it. Wlad had never seen anyone get up from much lesser shots.

He thought it was over as Aj had in round 5. They both left themselves vulnerable. At no time was there a tougher out than he was that night

 

Not Fury.

 

No. Fury is all wrong for Wlad. Bigger more mobile, able to box from angles. Wlad will lose to him 99 times out of 100.
Wlad was amazing in the Joshua fight, he showed more guts and determination than ever. He was better than the Wach version. Wach was slow and slow, also he was really slow. Easy to look great against Slowy McSlowington the slowest mayor in the history of Slow Town.
Reason Wlad came up short against AJ was his inability to adapt mid-fight. He almost had AJ out, but kept winging those wide left hooks. He should have realized after 2 of them missed that he needed to change his angle. Or set up a trap to get AJ into position to eat the punch. He didn't though. he kept throwing them the same way, they kept missing by a mile. Wlad loses to AJ like 60 times out 100.

 

Bullcrap. Wlad was old and looked past it before he fought AJ and Fury. He also had a long layoff before AJ. He almost knocked him out in his prime and that's evidence to you that's he loses 6 out of 10? Seriously that's just poor logic.

 

That little bit of speed Wlad has lost is making a big difference in the outcomes of his fights.

 

Inactivity, thanks to Fury, but Vlad looked great, he was on his toes the entire fight, almost won by knockout!!! If only Vlad had thrown a few body shots while Joshua was helpless, drunk.....................a younger Vlad could have beaten him, but that fight was a real fight, exciting and the rematch could be even better. Vlad could beat Fury, esp. if Fury is off the roids.............the rematch, 50/50, that's why everyone wants the rematch to happen............

 

No.

 

Weird thread,i am not sure what meaningful or relevant conclusion could possibly be drawn from comparing the wach fight? That was Wlads 62nd fight AJ still only has 19 fights Wlad lost to AJ by TKO, And that's all that matters, Even though the 41 year old Wlad could have beat AJ he nearly did but he didn't This is HW boxing practically anybody can beat anybody on a given night, What matters is actually doing it though.

 

I think Wlad would always struggle with Fury. He's never faced a rangy, mobile fighter like him before and would always struggle with that style. Wlad's lack of counter punching makes him rely heavily on getting off first which is hard to do against the taller more agile man.

As for Joshua I think he takes him. While he looked great against Joshua he was still a 41 year old man and has been in decline since Pianeta for me. Had that Wlad been around now, I suspect Hearn would not have risked Joshua in the ring with him just yet.

 

I remember Wach momentarily wobbling Wlad at one point (I think?), so I don't know why you think this was a great version of Wlad?

 

Precisely Wach had Wlad hurt, Joshua would have put him away again.