Would Wladimir having it too easy, hurt him H2H against ATGs.

You don't see any skill set above average with Ibragimov? The guy was a stud, and VERY talented.
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How about Chagaev? You don't see any skill in him either? That's crazy.
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Sam Peter was a damn monster just ripping through the division when Wlad beat him. Average?
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Brewster was a stud!
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You already conceded that Byrd, Chambers and Haye are skilled fighters. We all know that Rahman is a skilled fighter too, and wasn't as old and past it as people like to pretend. Just a couple years earlier people were saying that he chased Vitali into retirement. I think that proof is right here for everyone to see. Those guys look great against OTHER guys. Klitschko makes them look ordinary... of course... because he's in a league of his own.

 

Agreed. It's funny how Klitschko haters hold on to the "Well Wlad has it easy. Look at his weak opponents" excuse. Look at the ****ing guys Holmes defended against! You're telling me COONEY, Shavers, and Witherspoon were better than Byrd, Ibragimov, Haye, Chagaev, Chambers. No, sorry. Not buying it. And those were really the best names Holmes beat during his reign. I wont even go into the famous 'Bum Of The Month' club developed during Louis era of 25 defenses.

 

lol,You are a idiot.
Why not get Tommy Morrison vs Harry Terrell,And say look at this world class fighter;Tommy is skills are supreme.

I agree with you in Sultan,he was coming off a win over prime 2007 Holyfield and blocked Wlad's jab with his hand(Something most old timers would do) but then what else did he do next? Nothing.


And the above me about Joe Louis bum of the month club............ Look at what he did to them,Look at the skill he displays,His trainer would out smart any fighter that existed from Joe's time and beyond. Flawless.

 

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Funny how you had to meantion Tommy Morrison of all people :think :think

Look, Wlad is an Olympic Gold Medalist, has almost 60 wins with 3 losses, 13 straight title defenses AND COUNTING, and has fought and beat pretty much every contender out there for him. Many have been VERY good fighters and he basically shuts out and schools every one of them. GET OVER IT. And as far as Louis and his "flawless" reign... Most of his opponents were not of the same caliber as Wlads. Yes I know he had some impressive victories over legit fighters. But Red Burman, Tony Musto, JOHNNY PAYCHEK??! LOL

 

Get over it? Why start a discussion with you just so I can stop at a point.
Buddy, Joe Louis would chop Wladimir down like a tree.
"Nah have you seen Wladimir muscles and size he'll smash him"
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa right

 

in fantasy hypothetical land, meanwhile in real life

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Yea true but it doesn't take away the fact that today HW don't know how to deal with someone who has the same reach as Holmes.

 

They are trying to deal with somebody stronger, hits harder, has a longer range, and VERY skilled. Nevermind the ****ing reach. You telling me Ibragimov and Haye couldn't get to Holmes? But Carl Williams and Tim Witherspoon (who weren't nearly as fast) Gave Larry CLOSE fights and tagged him a bunch of times.

 

59-3. 13 straight title defenses, Olympic Gold Medal. But haters will keep on hating :dance

 

Joe Louis would eat a right hand harder and faster than the one Marciano blasted him out of the ring with :dead

 

David Haye lol. What he did vs Wladimir,he should have been blacklisted.
Larry Holmes went 12rounds with a prime Holyfield, And you want to say David Haye and Ibragimov will be able to take on Holmes?

Larry Holmes vs Holyfield 92'Holyfield UD
Holyfield vs Lewis'99'Draw and UD.
Lewis vs Klitschko 03'Lennox Wins-RD6-( Washed up Lewis vs Washed up Tyson went more rounds lolllll)

Hmmmm.....

 

Wlad crushed every cruiser he faced. Louis was great in his own time but against Wlad who is bigger, stronger, more experienced and better schooled he stands no chance.

 

Holmes his biggest victory was and still is Eric Esch.

 

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