Would Wladimir Klitschko have gone as far without Vitali Klitschko?

fair enough.
I think Vitali did alot of damage in that fight also

 

Where did that get said in the thread start page?
I wrote that I favoured Wlad over the fighters Vitali fought at that time and asked a different question. Did you read the first page?

 

I havent questioned any of that

 

I could see how it benefited but not quite in the way you are seeing it.
When a fighter lost to a Klitschko it seemed that they had lost to both fighters rather than just the one.
Molina lost to Wilder but got a shot at Joshua not long after as an example of HW boxing now that the champs arent related or thought of as one fighter to a degree. I had a feeling from posts I had read that Breazeale could be facing Wilder next which if that happens is another example of the above.
Now as written at the start of the thread. I dont think Wladimir didnt have the ability to beat any of the HWs Vitali beat but with having them beat, freed him up to fight another champ.
Lets say Vitali hadnt have been around. Would Wladimir have wanted to have the rematch with Peter when WBC champ at that time after the tough fight? I dont know either. Now if Vitali had not have been around there would have been more contenders for Wlad to face who may have passed the other 2 titles around which may have prevented Wladimir getting some of the bigger fights.

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That appears a benefit to me in that if one chooses not to fight, you could end up fighting the other at short notice and thats your title shot even though they are two seperate entitys.
You have lost to Klitschko but they are two seperate fighters. That is only my opinion and there are good counter points and im not saying that is set in stone but a bit of a feeling I had

 

The reason I rate his resume is partly based on consistency and how he reigned -

- WBA HW Champ Haye 25-1
- WBA regular HW champ Povetkin 26-0
- Peter twice who first time was 24-0 and became WBC HW Champ
- Ibragimov 22-0-1 WBO HW Champ
- Byrd IBF HW Champ 39-2-1
- Chagaev who was 25-0-1 and had been WBA HW Champ

other former HW title holders -
- Rahman
- Brewster
- Mercer

Other names who were a factor when beaten and other 0s taken -
Pulev 20-0
Wach 27-0
Jennings 19-0
Brock 29-0
Pianetta 28-0-1

Other names who were a factor when beaten -
Schulz 26-3-1
McCline
Botha
Barrett
Bostice
Nicholson
Austin
Chambers
Thompson

 

Its not lots of nothing. Several were reigning champs
Povetkin is still considered a factor today.
Earlier posts in this thread were saying they felt Byrd could cause decent fighters problems and who has a win over a prime undefeated Vitali.
Rahman has a win over Lewis
Byrd over Holyfield
Haye was a decent HW when Wladimir beat him
Chagaev was until recently when more active considered a factor
Botha had fought former HW lineal champ Briggs to a draw who Wladimir clearly beat

 

Then im notconvinced you have read the thread start properly, if you had, you would see that I wrote

Read the thread start page properly. If you are still confused with the question I will try and explain it in a way that you may find clearer (Thats not being sarcastic)

 

Vitali beat Sanders and beat WBC champ Peter when on form and WBC champ. Peter had given Wladimir a real tough fight

 

This was a reply to someone else but once you have read the Thread start may see what I was thinking with this post below

I could see how it benefited but not quite in the way you are seeing it.
When a fighter lost to a Klitschko it seemed that they had lost to both fighters rather than just the one.
Molina lost to Wilder but got a shot at Joshua not long after as an example of HW boxing now that the champs arent related or thought of as one fighter to a degree. I had a feeling from posts I had read that Breazeale could be facing Wilder next which if that happens is another example of the above.
Now as written at the start of the thread. I dont think Wladimir didnt have the ability to beat any of the HWs Vitali beat but with having them beat, freed him up to fight another champ.
Lets say Vitali hadnt have been around. Would Wladimir have wanted to have the rematch with Peter when WBC champ at that time after the tough fight? I dont know either. Now if Vitali had not have been around there would have been more contenders for Wlad to face who may have passed the other 2 titles around which may have prevented Wladimir getting some of the bigger fights.

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That appears a benefit to me in that if one chooses not to fight, you could end up fighting the other at short notice and thats your title shot even though they are two seperate entitys.
You have lost to Klitschko but they are two seperate fighters. That is only my opinion and there are good counter points and im not saying that is set in stone but a bit of a feeling I had