Would you advice Wlad to come back and try to break the Foreman record as oldest Champ in history?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Drago, Nov 21, 2021.

Should Wlad try to break the Foreman record?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Drago

    Drago Member Full Member

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    Foreman was 45 years and 10 months when be defated Moorer.

    Wlad will be the same age in January 2022...

    If he fights again in February 2022...or let s be realistic and say in the spring or summer 2022, and become world champion, he would overtake Big George as the oldest champion.

    Of course Trevor Bryan would most probably be the choice here...even if its questionable, but he holds the "regular" WBA belt...a super champion belt didnt exist in Foreman s days.

    Or would you even give him a good chance to beat either Fury for the WBC or the winner of Usyk/AJ for the WBA Superchampion, IBF and WBO?

    Imo Bryan would be a possible scenario...with all the politics in todays boxing.
     
  2. Matt0029

    Matt0029 New Member Full Member

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    Would imagine he'd beat Bryan pretty easily..
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This wouldn't count.

    Foreman came back and won the unified, linear titles. Wlad would have to beat at least Usyk to have an unequal but comparable feat. And he wouldn't beat Usyk at this stage.

    Stay retired. The division has passed you by, Wladdy. Happens to the best, and you have nothing to be ashamed of.
     
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  4. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the HW division right now is kinda trash ... except for the guys at the very top.

    He'd have to beat Usyk or Tyson Fury and that's a big ask at his age.

    I'd say that if he was really motivated and felt up to it - what the hell, why not? One last roll of the dice.

    Win the belt and retire a legend. :campeon:

    Or lose, and you're no worse of than before because everybody expected you to lose anyway.
     
  5. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Active Member Full Member

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    Probably unpopular take, but in his prime he matches up well against Usyk stylistically. That said, he's gotta be way too far gone by now. He should just stay retired.
     
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  6. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice The communists will destroy western civilization Full Member

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    Only if you want to see him lose.

    Which is a fair enough reason really.
     
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  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. exocet76

    exocet76 Active Member Full Member

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    Vlad is still in decent shape and I would fancy him against most apart from Usyk and Fury.
     
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  9. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Member Full Member

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    I want to see Wladimir try to jab-and-grab Usyk. Fight like a "big man", show Joshua how it is done.
     
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  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Active Member Full Member

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    I was thinking would Vlad try and do the "octopus" like he did against Povetkin. I think Usyk's footwork and speed would keep him out of range though.
     
  11. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Member Full Member

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    Wlad's footwork might be awful these days. Would have loved to see how Usyk could negate 2010 Waldo's jab.
     
  12. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad would be so stiff, slow and telegraphed right now that he would get stopped quite easily by Usyk and dominated by Fury.
     
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  13. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If somebody like Moorer held a title he could come back. At this age he won't beat Usyk or Fury. He even lost to AJ years ago at 41.
     
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  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Active Member Full Member

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    Vlad definitley knew how to use his large frame and jab to make life difficult. I think that's why a lot of the opposition went in defeated before the fight. It would take someone like Fury to solve that.
     
  15. Rollin

    Rollin New Member Full Member

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    George marketed his way to the top using his name, selling skills, and carefully selected opponents. He had an entire second career spanning a whole decade before retiring again after a highway robbery. It's not just about winning the title: it's about the circumstances of his comeback and the impression it left on people.

    That, and Wladimir would actually have to unify or beat an undisputed champion to surpass Foreman's achievement, since Moorer was at the time of his defeat an unified and linear champion.
     
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