Would you back Larry Holmes to beat all four of Lennox, Bowe, and the Klits?

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  1. Mendoza

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    Well the fight was about even before Cooney started tossing low blows. Conney hurt Holmes to the body at the end of the 4th round.

    I am a huge Holmes fan, but he had some very close matches with Norton, and Witherpsoon, and a real scare vs. Snipes. None of those three were in Bowe's, Lewis', or Klitschko's league. I doubt Lewis or Klitschko would lose to Spinks at age 36.
     
  2. Fighting Weight

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    I doubt any good version of Holmes would lose to Sanders, Brewster, Purrity, Byrd or ancient Lewis either.

    Incidentally, Norton and Witherspoon would both give either Klitschko a very tough fight.
     
  3. Swarmer

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    Ken Norton is a threat to any jab-reliant fighter, and that includes every single boxer in the topic title.
     
  4. Kalasinn

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    Bowe, jab-reliant? :think
     
  5. Swarmer

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    Less so than the rest of the boxers in the topic title, but yeah, he certainly used his quite a bit. He actually had a nice one, for a guy with his style.
     
  6. brb

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    Larry had to go tooth and nail with much of his competition - which was weak.

    I just can't see the 3 I mentioned earlier losing as many rounds as he did.

    Holmes doesn't have the power, size or reach.
     
  7. Boxed Ears

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    :lol: We gotta live one, boys. Holmes and his crocodile arms...
     
  8. Foreman Hook

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    You ****ing '****. :nut:nut

    Holmes's reach is 81" - teh same as WALDO's, 1 inch longer then VITLAY's And only 3" shorter than Lewis's.

    And how teh **** is 6'3 too small to beat a super-heavy???
    Brewster is 6'2, Byrd is 6'0, MCcall is 6'2, Rahman is 6'2 And Holyfeild is 6'2.....so you ****ing fail Hard.
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    All very true information, but as for your delivery.......OUCH!!!! :!:
     
  10. brb

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    Lewis - 6'5, 84" vs. Holmes - 6'3, 81"
    Wlad - 6'7, 81"
    Vitali - 6'8, 80"

    You have to think about the height and reach - they're almost a package deal.

    Holmes is giving away several inches in height and reach to all the above mentioned. You might say
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    They all spend/t an enormous time on keeping the perfect distance from their opponent and taking advantage of their physical attributes.
     
  11. ripcity

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    He might be fast enough to counter Vitly's jab, but other than that the answer is no he would not beat them.
     
  12. Jersey Joe

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    Yes, he had the best boxing skills, he was the only one of them with genuine fighting heart and never-say-die attitude, he was more of a badass, and had the best chin. He also has the best fighting record, longest reign, and had ridiculous longevity, still being competitive in his 40s against top contenders. He's also big enough to not be troubled by such large opponents.

    Holmes KOs Bowe and Wlad, and outpoints Vitali and Lennox.
     
  13. Jersey Joe

    Jersey Joe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, he had to go tooth and nail to reach 48-0 and 7 years as champion before a close points loss against an ATG fighter. As opposed to Lennox and Wlad being starched multiple times by nobodies, Vitali being stopped by an old Lewis and light-punching Chris Byrd, and Bowe getting bullied into retirement.
     
  14. Jersey Joe

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    Ridiculous double standards and blatant bias. You are acting as though winning a close match is something unusual for a great fighter, or something to count against him. A win is a plus point not a negative. As for knocking his competition, hello, Ali LOST to Norton once and many think twice, how is it a knock that Holmes BEAT him?

    Lewis lost to Rahman and McCall in his prime in brutal fashion, they were worse fighters than Holmes BEAT, and Lennox had a couple of close decisions. Vitali - in his prime - was beaten by Byrd, a far inferior fighter to Spinks, and lost to the 37 year old Lewis. Wlad was ****ing starched - in his prime - against 3 nobodies. Bowe lost in his prime and then quit.

    Note the common factor - they lost multiple fights when in their prime, against less than ATG opposition. Larry Holmes didn't lose ANY fights in his prime, he only lost when was was old, against ATG fighters.

    Why try to twist the facts?
     
  15. Jersey Joe

    Jersey Joe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So granite-chinned Holmes who got up to win from Earnie Shavers best punch, is getting stopped by Lewis, Wlad and Vitali? Not the other way round, considering that all 3 of them got stopped repeatedly in their prime, and Holmes is the only one who didn't?

    Also love how you try to turn it into a positive that all 3 got stopped, lol. Don't you think it's worse to get ****ING POLEAXED in your prime than it is to close a close, disputed decision when you are 36 years old after 48 fights and 7 years on top.