Would you favour any other HW in history to run Usyk's pro gauntlet 25-0?

There is a glaring omission in Usyk's top 10 wins..... Where is Gassiev??? That is definitely in his top 5 wins never mind top 10. Not to mention many HWs who've sparred him have said he's the most powerful guy they've been in the ring with.

Hunter is a good win but is he clearly higher on Usyk's scalps than Glowacki or Bellew? He might be closer to Huck than those 2.

 

I don’t see Holyfield losing to anyone on Usyks resume but if Usyk had to go through Holyfields resume he’d have more losses than him.

 

His cruiserweight accomplishments are similar to Breidis who likewise hasn't done anything at heavyweight

 

Holyfield's wins against Tyson and Bowe are so far ahead of anything Usyk has done at heavyweight. This crop of heavies is nothing compared to the '90s. Dubois would've been eaten alive in the '90s, and so would Joshua. Imagine Riddick Bowe against Dubois, it would've been target practice for 3/4 brutal rounds.

 

Idk why you people use this A side bs like it actually means something, you think Wladimir would have made more money fighting in Ukraine compared to Germany or the U.S? What makes Usyks any different? He’s a prize fighter, he’s going to fight wherever he makes the most profit. This is what prize fighters do, it’s been a staple in combat sports for nearly 200 years.

I just don’t see how Holyfield loses to anyone in Usyks resume, especially with how few fights he has. Holyfield before losing to Riddick Bowe already had the same amount of title fights and defenses and accomplishments Usyks had, I don’t see how Holyfield can’t replicate Usyks feat, especially since he fought and beat better competition.

 

Usyk consensus top ten, with vote tallies:

USYK
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/usyks-top-ten-wins-as-of-7-19-25.739181/
Fury 1 3
Briedis 3
Joshua 1 3
Gassiev 3
Fury II 3
Joshua II 3
Dubois II 3
Bellew 3
Dubois 1 2
Chisora 2

Additional fighters receiving votes.
Glowacki 1
Hunter 1

 

Tyson was no good post-prison due to his drug addiction.
Bowe's only good win was Holyfield. So its kind of tautological.

I respectfully but strongly disagree. Bowe could be said to be marginally better than Joshua or Fury, but not starkly so. And Tyson was a trainwreck.

 

My take is this...what Usyk has accomplished is remarkable. I have no need to say he has the greatest record or the biggest wins. That is always going to be Ali. But yeah, a lot of the guys who are uber-respected heavies lost to lesser fighters than the ones Usyk beat.

 

Fair enough, he wasn't 88 Tyson, but it was still a solid win. Joshua had his soul taken by Ruiz, so that devalues Usyk's win against him, in my opinion. Fury also battled serious cocaine, alcohol, and weight issues before he fought Usyk, too; it wasn't the same Fury that beat Wlad. It really comes across like I am a Usyk hater, I'm not, I have him at #2 P4P, and he is in the top 10/15 of HW's all time. I just think he doesn't have the longevity or the resume at HW to truly put him alongside the greats, and people are getting carried away because he's beating fairly decent but basic fighters.

 

Tyson Fury's best wins after his addiction problem: WilderX2 and Whyte

Joshua's best win after Ruiz loss: Ruiz

Tysons' best win after prison: maybe Frank Bruno in the rematch?

Usyk is goin to retire undefeated with at least six wins over fellow titlists. No embarrassing losses like LHW Spinks, or Ross Purity. He'll be remembered as great.