Part of my point: 2 fighters that aren't know for their stamina and workrate unwilling to engage each other. Did you watch boxing when there were 15 round fights?
Just to make it clear, you're claiming Haye's lack of gas and workrate are due to his punching power? 12 punches a round against Valuev are due to his power?
I've never heard that before and I watched boxing religiously in the 80s. A 15 round fight is 45 boxing minutes plus 14 minutes between rounds. That equals 59 minutes. Do you have any proof for your statement?
It wouldn't necessarily be who the fittest was, and obviously not all the fights would go the distance anyway. We get fights today that are 10 and 12 rounds that aren't always action packed. A professional boxer who looks after himself should be able to fight for 15 rounds. Boxers today have 8-12 week camps. In 1966, Ali fought four scheduled 15 rounders in the space of four months. If fighters could do it 50 years ago, they should be able to do it today. Comparing a potential 36 min fight to a 45 min fight, is not in anyway like comparing a marathon to a sprint. It's just an extra three rounds, not thirty. It's been done for years. If a fighter today with all the advancements in nutrition and sports science, with strength and conditioning coaches etc, can't do what guys in the 30's and 40's etc did, then they should be ashamed.
I've heard it many times, but it's never made sense. Nobody knows what the outcome is going to be, and it all depends on how many undercard fights they're going to show etc.
What are you talking about? Do you not know the history of the sport? This is not a new concept. We had 15 round fights for YEARS. They happened! What do you mean boring? Are you saying that all of the old 15 round fights were boring? They only way they'd be boring, is if you'd got two poorly conditioned fighters over 15. Yes, then that would be a snoozefest. But if title fights were over 15, then a boxer who was serious about winning a title, would be forced to get himself into better shape. It's a joke that guys who fought many times per year in the 30's and 40's, are now fitter than a lot of today's boxers. Not all 15 round fights were decided on who were the fittest. I don't know why you've asked the question regarding the a marathon runner and a sprinter? I would suspect that both of those athletes would train very hard. I bet you can't point out to me a poorly conditioned overweight sprinter can you? Why wouldn't fighters train as hard? Why do you think? Because they wouldn't be fighting for as long, so they wouldn't work as hard, and be in as good shape. Obviously I'm not referring to every fighter, but I would suspect that if all fights were 10 rounds or less, you'd get a lot of fighters cutting corners.
didnt read through the whole forum. but the elite fighters can fight 15rds trust me. and this would keep everyone from calling theirselves a world champion. and the heavy weights it actually would bring more excitement imo. haye and wlad for instance. could chance wlad might have gotr tired and haye might have caught him with that one shot. and made up for a terrible fight.
"Exposed as a fool," lol. What's with the insults? I thought we were having a decent debate? "That was one of the most pathetic HW title fights of all time". Are you serious? They were gasping for breath because of the pace of the fight. Have you ever even seen the fight? Well at least you like 1 title, same day weigh ins and more frequent fights.
Obviously the body torque and energy expenditure involved when one punches is greater when one is attempting to throw a bomb as opposed to a range finder. But we have overly muscular fighters like David Haye that either gas (see Thompson), or refuse to engage against guys like chinless Wlad or Valuev while throwing 12 punches per round over 12 rounds, and it's due to that he punches too hard? A guy like him couldn't go 15 unless, of course, he threw 8 punches per rounds, lol.
UKRkinetic, Because there's lots of lazy fighters today who aren't in top condition, especially the HW's. If they only had a 5 week camp where they had to prepare for a 9 or 10 round fight, and they only fought 2 to 3 times per year, then they'd more than likely be in worse shape than what they're in currently. I don't want to make a generalisation, but I suspect that's what would happen. You're under the impression that every 9-10 round fight, would be explosive and action packed. But I don't think it would be. You'd still get fighters gassing after 7 or 8 rounds, if they weren't properly conditioned. I respect your opinion, and it's what excites and interests you as a fan. In my opinion, it would be very intriguing to see how an explosive guy would perform under 15 rounds. There's been lots of great fights in the past fought over 15 rounds. As a boxing fan who buys PPV, I want to see guys fight as long as possible. I obviously wouldn't want to see anyone get hurt, but why would you want to see a 36 min fight, instead of a 45 min fight? There's fighters from the past that have fought hard in the final few rounds. Not everybody just stopped fighting after 12. You're generalising again. A 15 round fight would not be boring for the fans, unless you'd got two guys who weren't elite, and weren't properly conditioned. If you'd got two elite guys, who were in tip top condition, then it certainly wouldn't be boring. Go and ask fans if Duran vs Leonard was boring, or Leonard vs Benitiez etc? The guys in the 30's and 40's were much better conditioned, because they had competitive fights, and fought every other month. They didn't have 10 week camps, just 2 to 3 times per year. They were always in shape and ready to go. Fighters were fighting in slow motion against poor athletes? Roadwork of around 7 miles as always been the norm, and fighters are still doing that everyday in camp today, to build stamina. Of course they do other cardio work today and sprints etc, but fighters are still doing early morning runs of around 7 miles. Floyd Mayweather runs nearly 10 miles per day in camp. If you think that back when there was 15 rounds, they were two marathon runners slapping each other around, then you need to start watching some old footage. You can't have watched a lot of fights, to make a statement such as that.