Would you pick any Lightweights to beat Tommy Hearns?

Now thems fightin' words you blasphemist *******!!!!!!!!!! Don't ever compare Hearns MIDDLEWEIGHT love taps. His chinky chin newborn colt balance and all around uselessness at middleweight to the Great Monzon. Why, if you were here I would choke you out and throw us both off a balcony in Sunrise, Wyoming. Take that you antiCarlosite

 

Unless he's your idol and you have a hard time coming to terms with it, Hearns left no doubt what would happen 9/10 times, imo 10 times. He gets massacred coming in at lightweight everytime

 

Mosley and DLH too easy to hit. Mayweather jr doesn't have the firepower to get Hearns respect. Plus his height and reach would be a MAJOR problem. All 3 would get nuked in 5-10 rds. Possibly earlier.

 

And I'm back to agree with you.. Especially this going 20 rounds where Packey has the huge stamina adv. over Tommy

 

For this advantage to kick in, he would have to survive the first 10-12 rounds… a very tall order against a brilliant, hard-hitting boxer with enormous physical advantages.

 

Usually amatuer fights are different when they turn pro, but not in this instance. The amateur that beat Hearns, beats him as a pro as well. Wild enough, fast enough, tough enough & short enough to get way under Hearns shots, tire him out, drop him & stop him as a pro. Of course, IMO!

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hey Tramell, you don't by chance have Hearns, Furlano amateur contest do you.

Furlano a good solid LW Contender beat Hearns as an Amateur, and oddly lost his only World Title crack to Pryor.

I was friends with Nicky for about 3 years at Elementary School in Toronto.

for the record I don't think any 'traditional' sized LWs beat Hearns.

too much of a Size, Height, Reach and even weight diff, even at a catchweight arrangement, given a respected time to make weight, Hearns would still be too much for ANY LW.

 

No sir. I'd buy it on VHS today if I could find it!!!! for the record: I don't think any 'traditional' sized LWs beat Hearns either!

 

Very true but very doable imo.. Yes he gives up all the physical advantages .. but he has the foot speed and toughness to do it … He's a very live underdog in my book

 

Duran of Montreal was a far different animal than the version that fought Hearns but that Duran weighed 147

 

Arguello couldn't miss with his straight right.

I wonder how Pryor's chin takes a full blown Hearns right, Cuevas style.
Not well in the slightest imo.

 

Imo Hearns beats them all

Boxing Hearns was stupid, his jab was just better, he was bigger and quicker. And you just had to deal with it.
This imo rules out guys like Benny Leonard, McFarland, Mayweather, Whitaker, Brown and Ortiz imo. They would have to go on the defensive at some point and eventually Hearns hits all of them with a right hand they can't handle.

So if you can't box him, how'd you win? Pressure? Nah mate. Doesn't work.
Hearn's power, size and boxer-puncher style lends himself to stop Brawlers/Sluggers/Swarmers early, especially smaller ones. So guys like Pryor, Armstrong, Nelson, Pacquiao and Montgomery don't have much of a chance either.
He also didn't clinch much, So Gans is pretty much a sitting duck.

To beat Hearns, you need everything, as well as the chin to take his power. And there isn't a lightweight in history with that imo. Although I think that based on styles Napoles is horrible for him, I don't think he takes that power.
So I think Duran, Napoles and Canzoneri have the best chances, but they aren't high imo, in fact my money would be Hearns in 6.

There's only 3 WWs I'd pick over Tommy as well.

 

Hearns would decapitate him. Hearns was feather fisted in the amateurs.

 

What a wonderfully horrible post. Thanks.

 

I don't see Arguello's boxing ability similar to Hearns so I can't make that comparison. Hearns as stated had a great jab and outboxed Ray, thats about it the rest he blasted out or got blasted.

Cuevas at no point attacks Hearns, often is backing or looking to set up something that never came- in between are very few shots thrown by either. About 1:30 in Cuevas is backed to the ropes stays there. When in the history of Pryor's fight did he wait? Choose to back up as opposed to getting backed up by shots? My point here is the inactivity of Cuevas is the opposite of "Perpetual Motion" Pryor. Or as Hagler said, he jumped on Tommy giving him no time to think.

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Between 1:30 -2:30 notice how few shots Cuevas threw. That is NOT pryor. Remember we are talking an angry kid who was abused, molested, turned to drugs. He was a wild thinking mofo who took the fight to his foes. Let's setup the knockdown!
5:20 in clip Cuevas tried to lunge a shot without moving, so he is out of range to land as well as get caught. 5:30-5:45 he does nothing. Again that is giving Hearns way too much time to setup. 5:40 right before he lands, he extends that jab and has it right on the side of Pipino's head who does nothing. Then BAM, wobbles, falls.

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Now this video shows perpetual motion Pryor is always moving, bobbing, slipping, weaving & lunging. Little of it is graceful, but the point is not how poetic he looks it is to point out how Pryor's fight just couldn't resemble 1 second of the Cuevas fight. By 1:00 minute into this clip could we agree that Pryor threw more that minute then Pipino threw in 2 rounds LOL!? Notice - just as often as Alexis landed, he missed. So the clip showed he could miss shots. Pryor usually got caught while throwing. Alexis was cool under fire and knew he could take it.
Hearns lands on Pipino with an extended arm. Vs Pryor? He's almost always on the inside.
George this would have been a great scrap! Sure Hearns had the power to stop Pryor. But Pryor had the stamina to fight 14 if need be 15 rounds. If Hearns fatigued after whooping Ray's ass for 14 rounds, how does he not get challenged with endurance against a guy who can throw 60,70 per round? Who knows how many he threw...they weren't tracking punches then. And that shot that Alexis threw that snapped Pryor's head back Whew! Hearns lands his? He drops Aarron. But we have no proof that Pryor could not get back up. Few could beat Heanrs at LW as you said because of his dimensions, especially if he re-hydrates the next day. Outweighing Aaron by 10lbs fight night, well yeah he could KO him. Sorrowful way to beat a guy though. Pryor fought at the weight he walked around at. Tommy? Not always.