Would you rather see Wlad fight somebody else?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Punisher33, Dec 31, 2007.


  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Povetkin, Greenberg, Tua, Dimitrenko, Virchis, Chagaev, Peter, Maskaev, and Valuev would all be as interesting, if not more.

    As far as who he should be fighting? Eh, I don't really care. That's not how I view the heavyweight division. Doesn't matter much to me who any titlist fights as long as it isn't a can. I can take or leave unification, take or leave fights with top-rated guys that are going to be "good for the division". I'd rather see interesting and exciting fights.
     
  2. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    that's true in a sense. while peter got soundly outboxed, he did make wladimir have to work for that win. even though wladimir was not really hurt, he did get thrown off his game on a couple occassions.

    therefore your logic seems fair. but you also have to factor in a couple more things. wladimir is getting better, while peter has gotten worse.

    don't believe me? watch their fights since they fought each other.

    wladimir: no matter what people say about brewster, wladimir still beat him easily in their rematch AND almost did it with one hand. he also ko'ed austin who is crap (but definately a step up from long) with ONLY the left hand. he also beat the crap out of byrd, whereas he had to settle for a shutout years earlier. he also beat brock and made it look easy.

    peter: got dropped 3 times (and they are what you call really legit knock downs :p ) by mccline who is another wladimir victim. he couldn't ko toney who has zero desire and a former middleweight and also extremely overweight, twice! and the first time he argubly lost! and finally he fought long as his come back fight after wladimir. those replays of the ko of long looked more like a scared fighter wanting out, rather than peter laying on the hurt. long lost the mind game and quit. afterall he recently gave olandier solis a solid workout, so you have to wonder if he would have done the same to peter if he got pass the early jitters.

    so judging the performances of both fighters since they met, do you STILL believe in your heart that peter has a better chance than say, povetkin or chagaev? :think

    P.S. and since when has the wbo become a "joke belt"? i mean, it wasn't long ago that haters were saying wlad NEEDS the wbo belt to redeem himself due to losing it, and linage etc etc etc. so the moment ibragimov won it off briggs, that makes the belt a joke? what happened to the linage? the requirement he needs that belt so badly to redeem himself?
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I couldve said it any better myself.:goodEven though Im a known Wlad critic, I do think Wlad is the best out there right now, beating Iggy does nothing to change what I already know. Most of the names you mentioned would be alot better fights for fans to watch, Iggy is not an exciting fighter by any means, this fight will look alot like the Brock/Wlad fight with a little less action. Iggy is going to run the whole night until he gets tired and runs into a big right hand, there will be no surprises in this fight.
     
  4. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    i think wlad can do it . ruslan will be his hardest test
     
  5. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    your the most knowledgable Wlad advocate I have came across on these boards, you made very good points. As far as Peter getting worse I must disagree with you, yes he had a bad night against Mccline, but thats look at this a little deeper shall we. Peter had only 10 days to prepare for a completely different oppenent than Maskaev, Mccline is a very game fighter, who has very underrated power especially in the early rounds where he hurt and knocked down many good oppenents such as Briggs, Bryd, Brock, and recently Peter.

    Peter has improved both his jab, body punching, and now uses better punching technique than when he fought Wlad in Sept of 05. Peter has been the only man to not only hurt Toney, but knock him down as well, something Holyfield, Ruiz, Guinn, and Rahman coudnt do as Heavyweights. Time will tell wether the Mccline fight was a fluke or not, but I think we will know better after the Maskaev fight in march.
     
  6. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So, say you get your way, and Wladimir does fight Valuev, or the titleless Peter (Peter has not title, only the right to fight for Maskaev's title), and regardless of WHO wins, what is the benefit of having yet another defense?

    that puts us not one step closer to clearing up the ongoing mess of having four meaningless titleholders. Nothing whatsoever would come of that, outside of a fight that may or maynot be a good fight. STILL four seperate titleholders, all claiming to be the man, and none really BEING the man.

    If you think about it in long term, and how sad the division is right now, you can clearly see how much more important title unification is, regardless of if its competitive, or not.
     
  7. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His brother.....:lol:
     
  8. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    The Heavyweight title needs to be unified, so this is the right fight at this present time for Klitscho.
     
  9. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    It's a shame it's for the WBO title which has never held any significance in the heavyweight division.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right now, I couldn't care less about quality of opposition. What I want to see is unification, so that in the future the biggest and best fights can take place. Ibrgaimov isn't the worst fighter out there, but most importantly, is a world champion. Wlad should beat him and then carry on in his bid to unify all the belts, which will hopefully happen in the future.

    You have to look at the bigger picture concerning this fight. In the grand scheme of things, it's the right bout for boxing to have.

    Klitschko KO 2 or 3, by the way.
     
  11. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Yes of course, but after the 23rd Feb, there will be only 3 not 4 boxers claiming to be the Heavyweight champion of the world.Thats got to be a plus.
     
  12. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    True & there will only be one if someone manages to unify all the belts until the WBA sanction a fight for their "regular" title.:roll:
     
  13. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    I agree the WBA are a joke.
     
  14. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    See the thread I started.

    Click here
     
  15. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Perfectly stated and without a wasted word! :good