Would you rather train Broner - Rigondeaux - Russell or Gamboa ?

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  1. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you were a trainer and were given the opportunity to pick only one of the guys mentioned in the title, in order to train them and maximize their overall potential and skills, which boxer would that be ?
     
  2. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They're all good boxers but I think Russell has that little extra special in him...
     
  3. Cellz831

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    id pick Broner because hes the only one that needs a little more improvement. everyone else is pretty much as good as theyll ever be. Russell is still young tho.
     
  4. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    The only prob with gary is that he is so small... Not muvch room to move up... I mean dude is already not that big of a puncher but dude is unbelievably sound on d and some really fast hands. Kant wait to see if he passes the stamina test against a tough pressure fighter with a chin
     
  5. SJS19

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    Very good question.

    The way I train kids and teenagers, I think I'd work best with Russell Jr.

    If I was a big name trainer, I'd decline Broner. He's very very skilled but if he asked me to brush his hair I'd poison his lunch. Rigo also seems like a Prima Dona and seems too set in his ways, I like more activity.

    So I'd train GRJ. He has fantastic speed, I'd build on that; teach him that speed is just as good a defensive tool as an offensive one. I'd start basic, sharpen his fundamentals, see how quick I could get him to pump that jab, (Pump not flick) double and trippling it up while stepping to his left, dipping his knees and using lateral motion.

    He has the athletic talent to do so many things at once, he really might be a dream to train.

    His defence, I'd have him fight in a philly shell which is close to becoming a lost art in Boxing, fighting from this defensive posture, he would be in position to fire his own shots off right away, given his speed this should ensure a high accuracy.

    Footwork, again basic. If he steps here, you step here, etc. Every action has a re-action. You then flip the coin and show him offensive steps, if you step here, you open up this angle, etc. I teach efficent footwork rather than fancy, similar to Andre Ward.

    I then link his natrual punching fluidity to offensive and defensive footwork, getting him into the habbit of what I call accumalation rather than devestation, don't load up; let the punches flow natrually, downstairs, upstairs, cover everything.

    I'd then teach little tricks, pivoting after certain shots; never allowing him to fall into the traps of the gifted (Pulling straight back from punches, allowing concentration to slip) how to slow a fighter down (punching to hip bones, standing on the other guys foot etc) I'd then spend a long time teaching him the defensive clinch, so if (or rather when) he is caught hard, he can re-couperate by grabbing and buying time.

    I'd come up with more, but that'll do for now :D
     
  6. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As a trainer I would rather train Russell. All the others are pretty much as good as they are ever going to be.
     
  7. Cellz831

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    dudes power is very underrated. dont let the KO% fool ya
     
  8. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for sharing..good post ! :good
     
  9. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All good points and I agree.
     
  10. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    Oh I do agree I jus dont think he has the world klass power that kan keep a pressure fighter honest. An not jus any pressure the lower weights guys are a very skilles and when u get a guy that kan cut off the ring and get in an maul u behind an educated jab u need power to keep em honest. Idk he has the power to k.o. B and c level fighters but not an elite level fighter imo. I mean maybe his feet are that fast an he wnt need powerbut then he is almost completely unmarketable and thats how u create a fliyd mayweather, not in the cockyness ect. But in the sense people only watch to see him lose and people ten to hate fighters like him...
     
  11. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact that he can not move up is a problem in this era of weight class hopping. You take guys like Willy Pep he fought his whole career at FW and he is top five ATG
     
  12. JMP

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    Gary Russell Jr
     
  13. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    Very true but this isnt an era of fighting once every month or two. To even be metioned in the same sentence according to boxing experts is to jump weight. lets face it bhop stayed his whole prime an the sum at mw and never got the recognition til he moved up in weight...
     
  14. ripcity

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    Adrien Broner or Gary Russell. They're younger than Guillermo Rigondeaux & Yuriorkis Gamboa. I have a future to think about.