As good as the fight was, a rematch is pointless because..... 1. I don`t see Cotto doing any better, only worse. & 2. fmj is 35 & all energies should be put towards fmj-pac before age catches up, rematches only use up valuable time.
I don't know if I necessarily agree with you. It depends on how mobile Mayweather is. If he gets trapped against the ropes, expect Pacquaio to move to his side and bang away punches. In order to beat Pacquaio, Mayweather has to be on his toes for the entire fight. He can't afford to spend time against the ropes. Pacquaio will come up with that uppercut and hit Mayweather as he ducks into it. The way I look at the fight with Cotto, if Mayweather could have boxed he would have. So maybe the rumors about his legs are true. Although, Cotto did waste energy by throwing all those punches, but it's not exactly news that Cotto fades.
Cotto won two rounds at best and people want to see this again? You dont get rematches for effort Mayweather can fight one of these young guys And stop compaing Cotto fight to Mayweather fight Cotto was much bigger than Manny. Manny cant fight on the inside
Interesting viewpoints. I think both fighters would make interesting adjustments. (By the way IB, never saw you post in this thread a while back, would be interested to hear your thoughts, if you can find the time to take in the real discussion and tune out the nut-huggery from both camps: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11240721)
I'm not sure about a rematch, because I don't really see what Cotto can change up to get the win in a rematch.
Aye, but that isn't what I necessarily meant. It's more about how you win the rounds. I had Mayweather beating Cotto 116-112, and De La Hoya by either the same or 115-113, can't remember exactly which. The Cotto fight was still much harder on Floyd (as in more rigorous and fraught with danger), and would be even had Oscar not abandoned his jab.
The question is would I want to see it, and the answer is "yes" based on how I read it. The first fight was competitive through the first ten rounds, and was aesthetically pleasing throughout. Even if we got the exact same fight the second time around, that means we'd be treated to another exhibition of high quality boxing. Can never really go wrong with that. Granted there's a chance that Mayweather adapts his game plan better and secures a stoppage. Then again, there's also a chance that Cotto adapts and makes the fight closer and even more competitive. Either way, I would certainly want to see how a rematch played out between these two. I don't think it will happen immediately, and it might not happen at all. But I would still like to see if if it were to be made in the future.
:nod :deal I'd lean toward Mayweather adapting better and would again pick him by cuts or accumulation stoppage (this time more confidently than before - which feels odd, given Miguel exceeded my expectations with his performance :think), simply because Floyd has shown himself to be far more adaptable throughout his career. That said, if Cotto made me look a fool by catching Floyd on the ropes with one massive, career-defining, sport-changing left hook - I wouldn't mind that much at all.
I guessed you meant as much, but a wide unanimous decision, void of any controversy, just doesn't call for a rematch for me. I don't see why losing badly entitles a fighter who just doesn't look like he could beat this guy in 15 tries deserves a rematch. I'd probably watch it, but I wouldn't be drawn like I was this time - and I didn't ****ing see anything that I didn't expect to this time around.
Fair. To me it's the fact that Cotto even held him to the 116-112 range and create some real doubt in the moment when he had Floyd on the ropes (something predecessors like Victor never actually did to an educated eye), when many of us expected something more in the vicinity of a 120-108/119-109 - or even a late intervention on PBF's behalf due to facial reconstruction. It's a bit like how Wladimir Klitschko vs. Tony Thompson left no doubt - but in the years since, as Thompson has clawed his way back up the rankings it's been "Well yeah, but - who else is more deserving? And who else will give WK as much trouble as Tony did if only for a few rounds?" Now I'm not saying Junior Middleweight is quite as bad as Heavyweight - it has some good fighters, but not really many very good or great fighters. If Mayweather is going to remain at 147/154 there really isn't anyone posing any more risk to him than Cotto did for spells. It's got to be Maravilla @ 160 if Floyd is to be tested any more than he just was.
I had it 10-2 the first time and 9-3 the second time. Nothing you are saying is outrageous but I think that's a harsh indictment of boxing politics than anything else. It should take more for a fighter clearly in a class below at both bells to get a rematch than giving the favourite a slightly bloody nose (in a boxing match) and winning two or three rounds. Cotto was firmly beaten. Onwards and upwards. If a blueprint is forming or if Mayweather is slipping, Cotto doesn't get to cash in on it by being firmly beaten.