Wow, Arum telling pac to sign or he's ducking!

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Real talk Divac.

    I don't hold any malice toward Manny. The man has had a long glorious career in boxing and is looking beyond that. After the momentum of his Cotto win it puts him in a perfect position to make his transition into his next life, politics. You cannot hate a man for that. He has givin' so much to boxing. So I agree it isn't "ducking".

    The reality is that "life" happens in the time spent out of the ring. Same goes for Mayweather. However these *******s are merciless on discrediting Mayweather. My joy is in seeing these *******s actually face the reality of the fight, hahaha. :lol:
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Divac I know what he is trying to say, hahaha.

    I don't think it is a duck if the man just wants to move on in his life. If that is what he wants to do then so be it. Just be honest. :thumbsup

    Again, I hold ZERO malice toward Manny. I wouldn't even hold it against him for NOT taking this fight. My ire is aimed toward the *******s and Mayweather haters. :fire

    Call it what it is if he agreed to the challenge... A duck. :deal
     
  3. MAG1965

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    I am not a Pacman fan really, but you have to give the man time to heal up. Mayweather is the ducking fighter not Pacman. Pacman can retire now and be seen as very high in the rankings, but not Mayweather. Mayweather needs this fight more than Pacman. I am being objective. The Mayweather fans are trying to make Pacman look like the ducking fighter, when Mayweather is known for ducking and cherrypicking. He and Roy Jones have been the P4P king of ducking/cherrypicking.
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    That is all Mayweather does is duck. He blantantly ducks. It is almost shameful. I respect his boxing skills, but he is not a courageous fighter. At this stage he cannot compare to Manny. I do think he could outbox Manny, but Manny is the greater fighter easily right now and Manny earned it by taking some chances. Mayweather takes no chances.
     
  5. badger6

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    Well the whole part of this that I'm looking at is the terms and split. If anyone here knows the split or the terms of what Arum presented to Pac, spill the beans. But I am 99.9% sure that no one here knows what terms and purse split that Lil boy Floyd agreed to. Manny has the belt, the P4P, and momentum at the moment. So who cares what the fraud signed and agreed to. Manny is in the drivers seat and I wouldn't expect him or any other champion to bow or conform to a challengers demands.

    All this talk of Manny ducking is bull****. Floyd could be offering Pac anywhere from 35-49 % of the purse, which is more than likely the case knowing Floyds narcissistic personality disorder. In that case I wouldn't blame Manny for wiping his ass with that contract and shoving it down Arum's throat. It's amazing how everyone including Floyd **** on Arum before the Cotto fight. All the stuff like "he's a piece of ****" and "he rips fighters off". What makes anyone think he won't do it to Pac too. Promoters are like used car salesmen, they'll **** over their mother for a dollar. The Cotto fight is barely 2 weeks old and everyone is ducking everyone already, what a ****ing joke. Fights like these take more than 2 weeks to work out, months in some cases.

    Unless Floyd has conceded all the terms of the contract and purse to Pac, which i seriously doubt, it would be highly stupid for Manny to just sign it just because the fans want it and Arum wants his greedy little hands on it. Its called negotiations for a reason, it goes back and forth until a suitable agreement is arranged for both parties. Manny signing the first contract that the challenger puts in front of him would be like buying a car at MSRP, just plain stupid. Remember Pac has the belt, the P4P, and momentum. He should be dictating the terms not be dictated to !!!!!

    BTW for all you floydlickers out there, before you start drooling and screeming ******* this and ******* that. Cotto was my guy and he's been smashed to ****.
     
  6. scatterbrain

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    the most intelligent post. floydettes have been all over saying that pac agreed to fight on may 1 and he backed out on his word and hence ducked floyd.

    :patsch are floydettes so dumb to think that pac will fight pbf one week before the election.
     
  7. HyperBone

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    Badger6 made a great post. But i bet pac haters like divac and floydettes will choose to ignore him and go ahead with their ****
     
  8. divac

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    What the hell are you talking about.......its Arum himself who is saying Pac would be ducking Mayweather if he is'nt agreeable to the contract......

    .......obviously the contract has got to be a 50/50 split if Arum is saying that Pac would be the one to be ducking.

    Listen, Arum already went through the same Pac shenanigans when the Hatton fight almost broke off due to Pacquiao's greed.......Pac wanted more than half of the PPV in England, when he was already getting about a 60/40 cut in the US.:patsch

    For this fight to have been negotiated so quickly between Arum and Shaefer, its about a given that both sides realized that there was no other way the fight would have gotten made without it being split down the middle.

    There is no question here that its a 50/50 split, or we would have heard from the Pacquiao camp already that Mayweather was asking for more than that.

    Its plain to see here......Floyd's eager to shut mouths up at a 50/50 split........Pac is'nt so secure in his belief that he could beat Mayweather, or he would have agreed at least in principle to what has been negotiated.


    Just weeks ago, Roach was running his big mouth on how a Mayweather clash would be the easiest fight in the world for Pacquiao, now he's saying he needs more training time, because they have to go through a special training camp for what he had said was Pacquiao'a easiest fight!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:nut
     
  9. Farmboxer

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    Pac and Roach want a fight with Void very badly, but they will not allow themselves to be robbed. Roach tried to get Void to fight Pac right after the Hatton fight, but Void refused. So, Pac fought another fighter that Void refused to fight, Cotto! Void also refused to fight Margarito and Mosely.
     
  10. Scar

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    If Pac wins this fight it's almost guaranteed he wins the election, expect him to come in perfect shape. Pac proved lately that he's immune to pressure so let's see how this goes.
     
  11. M.I.G.

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    Did anyone seriously EXPECT the fight to be made a couple weeks after the Cotto fight? C'mon, guys - these things take time.
     
  12. SAS2

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    arum is an old stereotype who desperately wants to cash in before he kicks
     
  13. badger6

    badger6 Ask your wife !!! Full Member

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    Of course they did, everyone just wants instant gratification without thinking about it !!!
     
  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who has he ducked? Please tell me! Arum ducks! Don't see the common thread with Cotto, Manny, Margarito? They all work for Arum like Mayweather used to. Mayweather asked to fight them. Arum ducks.

    Mosely is the biggest clown of them all. When Mosely was called out he said he had a loose tooth and needed a vacation. Then he let DLH step in and take the fight.

    The ONLY person who can rightfully claim being ducked is Paul Williams. I don't blame any true welter for not taking that fight. Paul is too big and has ZERO fan base.

    Where is the ducking? There is none!
     
  15. bald_head_slick

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    See Badger you are full of crap. You don't need to know the terms of the split. You only need to know that BOTH groups had their people there and came to MUTUALLY AGREEABLE TERMS. FMJ signed on. Manny is scared. :scaredas:

    Arum is the person Manny chooses to represent him and says talk to every time a fight comes up. What is different now? Arum and Co presented the terms and Mayweather agreed. There are no silly catches in it. What benefit would it be to Arum to negotiate some crap he knows Manny won't sign? Arum, although shady like all boxing promoters, is a pro. He would not be flying his old ass over to the Philippines with a BS offer.

    There is no reason for FMJ to conceed to Manny. There is no reason for Manny to conceed to FMJ. This fight has enough money to go around for everyone involved! So why won't Manny give the nod? :huh Anyway didn't Manny get on TV talking about he did it FOR THE FANS not the money? So why is it all about the money now? You *******s are tripping all over yourselves just like Team Pac trying to spin this BS!!!

    The reason we are saying DUCKING is because Team Pac said they wanted to fight on March 13th. When Mayweather agrees in a flash now they are scared! :yikes

    Cotto ducked to using Arum as a shield. Cotto was too green to face Mayweather. Remember? :deal