WOW...NSAC orders immediate drug tests for both

HGH is not tested with urine, but so is blood. No one has ever been tested for HGH using bl0ood. EPO can be tested with urine.

 

Please enlighten me. I am confused on this.

As far as I know, I really thought urine test is more than sufficient for drug test. A lot of people are saying that the drug flushes out within 48 hours, and the one form the body flushes it out is through urine. The liver as far as I know process these drugs and whatever do not belong for the body, it sends to the kidney then turns them to urine waste. If it stays in the blood, then the scheduled blood tests should be more than enough plus the daily urine check.

 

I give the NSAC credit for this move....but, this will help manny.....If the test comes back clean, as I think it will.....his reputation will come back up a bit...

The problem is that he is not in camp at the moment....so that test will give everybody a false sense of security.....and then public perception will look like mayweather is ducking.....Which I don't think he is ducking this fight...

This is one of the best things temporarily that could happen to manny pacquiao...

 

Nah, there are many forms that can be added and removed.

Blood doping for example gives you energy to punch none-stop for 12 rounds.

It can be done in many ways - artificially or with your own blood taken out and once your body makes more to make up for it you inject the blood you took out. This way you have a surplus of blood to transport oxygen around. This surplus blood has to be given around 2-5 days to take full effect. It can then of course easily be taken out again at any one point. For example right after a critical mountain stage in Tour de France or right after a fight.

 

very true having them test now means nothing .

 

You mnake it sound so simple and your explanation is simpleton. Autologous transfusion is more complcated than that.

Th body takes 120 days (which is the life span of a RBC and also the time frame that Red Cross allows you to donate another FRESH WHOLE BLOOD) to completely replace the blood that was taken out of you. So it is not like a whim that you decide that you need the blood, then transfuse.

For you to get the benefit of autologous transfusion, the body has to completely replace first the blood that was taken out, then transfuse back the blood that was previously taken out for extra blood. Otherwise, what did you gain when you just put in the same amount that was taken out.

There is however a catch!!!! Autologous transfusion has to be done aseptically with the storage of blood using blood bank refrigerators, not the usual refrigerator you have at home. The risk involved is very high because anyone who knows bloodbanking knows that the risk and complications of doing autologous blood is almost the same as the one with a non-autologous one minus of course the hepatitis and HIVs.

And autologous transfusion does not allow to punch the entire twelve rounds. It might give you some increase in stamina, but not the entire 12 rounds.

To put it in perspective : Total human blood volume (for a 50 kilograms man) = around 10 liters

Volume of autologus blood given = 500 milliliters (1 unit)

The increase in blood volume (corresponds as well to the increase in the red blood cell) is only about 5 per cent of the toatl volume, thus, stamina-wise, you do not expect a very significant increase over a long period. You might gain a very small advantage, like instead of gassing out at the 5th round, you gas out at the 6th or 7th round.

Even if you take out blood immediately after the fight, the hematocrit won't equlibrate until after around 8 hours. Meaning that in acute blood loss, if you immediately measure the hematocrit, it would still reflect the pre-blood loss. So a blood test immeditely after the fight would still be a fool-proof test of determining whether the fighter did autologous blood transfusion, or a suspicion of using EPO.

 

Why don't you read first how an autologous blood transfusion is performed before you blurt out something.

If Pac is planning to do this kind of cheating, then he must have some blood stored somewhere in the Philippines because it is already late to donate one now for March 13 fight.

 

I think Manny Pacquiao will only follow orders of drug testing from proper legal authorities. No way he will take orders from a fellow boxer and possible future opponent especially if that boxer has a history of disrespecting the sport of boxing.

 

That's right but Floyd is already in training and who knows if Floyd already started doping. Remember the urine test is required from both boxers now.

 

that means manny's **** is on a filapino jet right now! i hope they handle it with care! dont spill any!

 

Jesus Christ, I know you dont believe an ounce of what you're saying.......just drop it and dont post anything on the matter PH|LLA, you're really embarrassing yourself.


"Pac does'nt want blood tests, because he really believes it will effect him physically and mentally."

......drop this crap.....its already been proven that Pacquaio had blood drawn from him twp weeks before the Hatton fight......and it was done for the Cotto fight as well.

The only problem Pacquiao has is with his blood being tested for performance enhancers....that much is clear as day.

 

i would never listen to floydettes when it comes to this kind of things

i prefer to do my own reading and ask people in the medical field instead

 

IMO Pacquiao's irrational fears are irrelvant to the entire issue. If such fears are scientifically unsound then that is not a reasonable basis to reject the conditions of the fight. He needs to join the 21st century with the rest of us and get over it. If he believed that he fought better stark naked and that clothes negatively impacted on his performace then would you think it reasonable that he was permitted to fight with his **** and balls out?

 

Accredited Philippine laboratories is as good as the one in Nevada.

 

If testing can be done in such a way that it will both prove he is not cheating but also not unduly affect him mentally then there is no issue with that.