Wow. People still think Froch beat Andre Dirrell? I thought it was Consensus

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  1. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    I had Froch well ahead.
     
  2. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Direll won the fight. No question.

    But he didn't win over home town advantage. Big mistake. It was there to be taken emphatically, but he didn't do so. What grates for me is that the Dirrell camp knew this - that the home town crowd would sway the judging, which is what happened.

    Dirrell should have turned it on a little earlier to be sure. He didn't.

    The better fighter on the night? Who should have won based on that? Dirrell. No question. But his own fault for not being absolute in his work and silencing the crowd so that only an idiot would think Froch won. Next time, Andre...you had it in the bag, but didn't close it.

    Froch, to me, is the epitome of a fighter whose meagre boxing skills is an embarrassment and contradiction to the boxing prowess and greatest he so often proclaims of himself. A classic example of running one's mouth off and writing checks his ass can't cash. And like the kid who manages to steal a few sweets from the sweetie shop, must know deep inside that soon the day will come when he finally gets caught. But until then, keeps swinging...hoping the luck and chin holds out.
     
  3. Cage

    Cage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dirrell was robbed, thats all there is too it.

    Im convinced that anyone who had Froch winning that fight is a complete and utter moron and should refrain from voicing their opinion on any fight what so ever.
     
  4. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How anyone can say Dirrell was ROBBED is beyond me.
     
  5. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im convinced you have your head so far up your ass, you think that anyone who dosent agree with you is a moron
     
  6. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. lefty

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    I totally agree.
     
  8. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You've now admitted that he is 'your' fighter, and that you've rewatched the fight a number of times (which is madness as it was a crap fight, but there you go). I'm guessing when you first watched it your gut feeling was that Dirrell had nicked it and you were disappointed when 'your' boy didn't get the nod. Every time you've watched it since, consciously or not you will be looking for reasons to give rounds to Dirrell. That's just how it is. The reason you're now calling it a robbery is because each time you've watched it you've selectively gathered evidence to back up your view that Dirrell won, and ignored any evidence to the contrary. I am happy to not rewatch a fight that i really didn't enjoy and go with my gut instinct, which is that Dirrell edged it by a round or two but didn't do enough to win it clearly and on that basis it was not a robbery. This opinion is based on watching the fight in real time as a fan of neither boxer, so to be honest it is probably more valid than your opinion which is based on watching the fight repeatedly as a fan of one fighter and convincing yourself that your fighter got jobbed.
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Look child. You already admitted you havent watched the fight but once, and it seems you already have a small grasp of boxing knowledge, its pointless for you to continue on arguing something you say you dont care about, its just making you look bad,
    Nope I was certain he had won. There was nothing in my mind that made me think it was even close. When it was announced as a split decision, I knew Dirrell was jobbed.
    Nonsense. I am perfectly willing to engage in debate with anyone who thinks that Froch won. Round by round, point by point, its only clear the reason no-one is able to, no-one that thought Froch won, is because he didnt win and telling me that a fighter who didnt land 5 power punches the whole fight won a boxing a match is the equivalent of telling me the earth is flat.
     
  10. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The reason nobody can give you a round by round debate is because nobody has bothered watching what was by all accounts a poor fight over and over again, as you have done. Let it go. It was a million miles away from being the worst decision of last year, and the really poor decisions came over in the US so you should probably lay off all the xenophobic nonsense you've been posting on this thread.
     
  11. tsmith

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    You need a champion worthy performance to take the champions belt

    Dirrell's performance wasn't that.

    Yes it was a sloppy fight but neither fighter deserved it, so was it a robbery or was it they couldn't score the fight a draw in such a big tournament.
     
  12. modestbiggles

    modestbiggles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As somebody else said, the first 5 could have gone either way. they were close, tentative and disputable rounds that could have gone to either man.

    I had 6 and 7 (i think) as certain Froch rounds.

    8, 9 and 11 were certain dirrell rounds. he started to take over and froch got more careless.

    10 was a little closer. could have been scored possibly either way. with his momentum, and ascendancy, lets say dirrell gets the nod here.

    12 was a froch round - and dirrell said that HIMSELF.

    if you give froch maybe 3 of the first 5 rounds, that gives him a total of 6. + a point deduction for dirrell.

    Therefore, your winner, AND STILL etc etc...


    It could obviosuly of gone either way. any cry of robbery is from self-interested americans, or people who just love to argue for arguements sake.
     
  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Dirrell won and a robbery was expected in England anyway. Didn't Froch intentionally body slam him and got nothing for it?, the wrestling tactics applied there all score points it seems for the local boys.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    The 4th and 5th were clear Dirrell rounds. 1 could have been scored even. Dirrell jab was faster and he actually landed a power shot but there was very little actually done in that round.

    Round 12 was a clear Dirrell round. Watch it again. Froch does nothing until the last minute of the round, even then he doesnt land anything clean. Dirrell lands more punches in the round, the biggest punch and the flashiest combination that actually puts Froch against the ropes.


    Dirrell was flustered and shocked that he had lost, you can tell in the post fight interview. Watch the round, not what a dazed young robbed fighter is pushed to say by the interviewer.

    The point deduction was nulled because Dirrell hurt Froch in round 10 making it even.

    So even if you gave Froch 3 of the first 5 rounds, the score should be 6-5-1 for Dirrell.

    Again no way Froch won 6 rounds. And even 5 is pushing it.
     
  15. modestbiggles

    modestbiggles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did Cotto get a point deducted for body slamming clottey in the "Good old US of A"? Nope.