Wow, words from somebody that was actually at the hearing !!!

You're right. There is a slight difference.

It's the commission's job to be checking the hand-wrapping, it isn't Margarito's.

 

Margarito was the one ACTUALLY having his hands wrapped.

 

And now it's been confirmed that it was not a horse shoe nor a chainsaw that was found in his wrapping, it could have slipped past him, like it did the Commission who's job it is to make sure everything's legit.

 

Come to think of it, white-out would harden overtime and end up being rock hard in large quantities. It would also flake off when dried.

Interesting...

 

MAN WHO IS THAT IN UR AVATAR?? WOW:hey

 

I've been on the side of waiting to see the lab results, just like you have been......

......but to be quite honest, its not the same for a fighter to have his hands wrapped with dried gauze, and then sweat during the fight....in this situation, the insert knuckle pad is not compressed to the degree that a insert knuckle pad that had been pre-watered and hand compressed.....

.....obviously, the precompressed pad is going to be stiffer and harder than the pad that was'nt pre-watered and compressed.
.....I clearly see why such watered pads are illegal, though from what I hear how small those knuckle pads are, I doubt they would have done much more damage than a regular knuckle pad.

I buy Capetillo's story that such watered knucklepads are designed to hit the punching bag.......imo, such a watered insert would protect the fighters knuckles more than it would cause damage to his opponent......

......but they're against the rules, so having one fighter wear them and the other not, is certainly a disadvantage to the fighter not wearing them.
.....I'm guessing that the fighter wearing such knuckle pads will shoot out his shots more freely, with less regard for the pounding his knuckles could suffer, especially when you hit such things as another fighters elbows, that can hurt the fighter that is thowing the shot more than it does the fighter recieving the shot.

What people have to remember is that the knuckle pads in question are small, firm but not block hard.....and the fighter using them still has a padded glove thats going over his wraps.......
......taking all that into account, the watered Pad imo would be designed more to protect ones own knuckles because there is more gauze in a compressed piece of watered knucklepad for the knuckles to absorb the impact.



Having said that, I dont agree with Freddy's assertion that the knucklepads are going to be moistened during the fight anyways......
......you can get more gauze in that knucklepad by watering and pre-compressing it beforehand.


Whats illegal is illegal and Capetillo certainly should suffer the consequences regardless if it was done intentionally or not, though the reasons I outlined earlier about Capetillo possibly being rattled and not thinking straight due to Richardsons demands right from the get go, should certainly play into the commisions weight on how long the suspension should be....

I year seems about right to me, but I'm not sold on the fact that Margarito was aware that an illegal knuckle pad was planted in his wrap.
According to that article, the first illegal knucklepad got by even the astute Nazim Richardson.

 

I am now not only convinced that HBO is out to get Margarito as a pro boxer...but soon, they'll be saying that he pushed the iceberg in front of the Titanic. He also introduced Mike Tyson to Robin Givens, injected Barry Bonds with steroids and mixed the drink for Panama Lewis and Aaron Pryor. After all HBO is out to ruin Margarito's life.

Least that's what his fans want us to believe.

 

If there were that many people inspecting the wrap application so closely as to point out the cross overs etc are wrong, yet NOBODY noticed the 'padding' is it not plausible that Capetillo missed it too?

It's hard to picture it, but if we could see images of the gauze, wraps and padding etc then maybe we could better judge for ourselves what might have happened. If the pads were tiny and stuck to the wraps or something maybe it's possible it was put on by mistake?

If they were used and old with blood on them, is it not possible that they were dampened and solidified a bit?

Sounds to me like a knee jerk reaction to punish Marg like that. Especially since there has not been any testing done yet. That's a joke and there's no evidence it was deliberate to me... sure it's giving the benefit of the doubt to take that stance but innocent until proven guilty and the summary above says it was negligence more than malice.

 

I figured as such.....I very much question that what Capetillo and Margarito had to say on the matter got lost in the translation.....more so in the fact that the CSAC were already in a ruch to judgment without as so much as the lab results coming in.....

For Christ sakes Freddy, that article that you posted talks of Capetillo walking in there not even knowing what he had to defend himself against.....

.....apparently when the inspectors confiscated Margarito's wraps at the fight, they did'nt show the alleged knuckle pads to Capetillo......Capetillo was of the impression that the commotion was because of Richardson's protests during the whole scenario of wrapping the entire hand, and not about the knuckle pads....

I know its a long article, and most posters here at ESB sadly dont have that type of attention span.....
.....but if they're going to opiniate on the matter, it certainly helps to get educated on what exactly has been going on from the actual witnesses on hand.

According to that article, Capetillo only realized what the stink was about at the actual hearing when the knucklepads were presented to him for him to feel.......
......of course, its his side of the story, but according to him, it was'nt until that moment did he realize that he had inserted the wrong knuckle pads and thus he went on from their to explain to the commission what had happened.

People, if you guys want to know that truth, alot more of you have to actually do some reading.

 

I think you're 100% correct.

Its one thing if Capetillo was caught using those inserts during a normal wrapping session where nobody was questioning and telling him that he was doing it wrong......

.....but Capetillo went and inserted those illegal knuckle pads in the face of Richardson objecting to his every move.....

It does'nt make any sense for anyone to have tried to do something he knew was illegal, in the face of being scrutinized the way Richardson was doing from the very beggining of wrapping the first hand.

It is very much possible that Capetillo in a state of being rattled at Richardson's demands with the way to place the tape, reached into his bag and took out the wrong knuckle pads.

 

Andrea Rincon....:smoke

 

And you were giving me a hard time about my posts? :roll:

 

You really need to cut this **** out. It's like how you CLAIM To own people. Dude...we can all read your posts. :rofl

 

The evidence has been contaminated so basically, regardless of what they find in the wraps now, they cannot charge Margo with it. They can't even prove the knuckle pads were damp at the time of wrapping, since anyone could have dampened them after they were found. Only the word of the deputy and Richardson can be taken, and the lack of professionalism on the part of the deputy and Richardson's proven lies since the incident undermine the veracity of those witnesses.

I hope Arum gets him a good lawyer and gets him off. It's been a complete knee-jerk lynchmob reaction to overly-dramatic hystrionics and falsities from Richardson.

"Hard blocks of plaster falling out of his wraps" indeed :-(