Wow, words from somebody that was actually at the hearing !!!

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  1. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Capetillo claimed that in the “confusion and chaos” of the argument over the taping of Margarito’s hands, he became flustered and “innocently grabbed the wrong things. I put the wrong things on.”

    B.S. Tell that to a kid....
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not defending whether Capetillo did it intentionally or not......but the pads they are talking about from what I understand would have been legal if not moistened.......

    What the commision should have done in hindsight, was confiscate Capetillo's whole bag where he had the gauze material in.......
    ......had their been pads in there that did'nt contain the moistened gauze in the middle of the knuckle pad, Capetillo's story about making a mistake and putting the wrong knuckle pads in Margarito's wraps, may have held some validity.

    .....again, not only did the inspector bafoons who represent the CSAC drop the ball in letting the pads be handled by different individuals in the Mosely camp outside of their presence, but it also looks like they dropped the ball in not confiscating Capetillo's whole bag that contained his wrapping materials and knuckle pads.

    Remember now, according the the article that Freddy posted, Margarito was made to rewrap his first hand several times before Richardson was satisfied with it.

    Capetillo was stupid to have had material in that bag that was only stricly for fight night purposes, but apparently he did and now rightfully has to suffer the consequences.......
    .....my point however is that I could actually see where a trainer in Richardson who is dictating to the inspectors how Capetillo should wrap Margarito's hands, could have rattled Capetillo into reaching into his bag and not pay attention that he was placing an illegal knuckle pad used for hitting the heavy bag, instead of grabbing the legit pads that contained nothing but dried gauze.

    Not defending Capetillo here, he was wrong whether is was done intentionally or not, but the commision erred in not confiscating Capetillo's bag.......

    .....had that bag not contained legal knuckle pads used between layers of gauze, then Capetillo would have been dead to rights about his excuse of having done it unintentionally.
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, the same kids that were absolutely certain it was plaster that was in Margarito's wraps!:lol:
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The part I highlighted would be possible and somewhat understandable if not for one thing....It was the first time that he wrapped the hands that the pad was put in there...

    CSAC dropped the ball and its the reason that we will never fully know just what the **** happened...The CSAC has a vested interest in the truth not coming out...It to thier benefit that nothing be found on that pad, its to thier advantage that whatever happened in that room be downplayed, it makes thier liability lightened..."Oh yeah it should not have been there, but its no big deal, it was nothing but a pad that was alittle moist"

    Bull****, the only way that we will truely find out what happened would be if an outside power looked into it... The CSAC isnt going to tell on themselves.
     
  5. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    No, its not yet proven what substance was that, but it was proven that it was illegal..So get off Margo's nuts will yah!!!:good
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The pad will eventually be tested in a lab, so I think we may well know exactly what the pad contained.

    .....and why would the CSAC be liable, if Margarito did not fight with the alleged illegal pads?

    .....and can you explain what you mean by the beggining of your post I highlighted.

    According to Freddy's post, Richardson was bitching about the way Cappetillo's was wrapping Margarito's first hand from the very beggining with the tape being used .........from the very begginging before Capetillo reaches into his bag to insert the first knuckle pad on his first hand.......
    From what I understand of it, Richardson was right there present when the first hand was wrapped and was satisfied with it after several attempts.......

    .....when they were wrapping the second hand is when Richardson asked to feel the knuckle pads.....apparently he did'nt ask to feel that knuckle pad when Margarito had his first hand wrapped.

    My point being is that Capetillo was already being rattled by Richardson's demands on how they should wrap Margarito's hands, when Capetillo reached out for the first knuckle pad......
    .....we really dont know, but Capetillo could have actually reached out and took both knuckle pads out of the bag at the same time.....thats just something we dont know......

    But according to that article, read it carefully, Richardson was on there case from the very beggining for the first hand being wrapped!


    .......and you know, now that I think of it.......there could be some truth to Capetillo's story.......
    Why on earth would he intentionally place an illegal knuckle pad in Margarito's hands, knowing that Nazim Richardson is on his tale and nitpicking at how he's even using the tape.....


    Capetillo has a nitpicking Nazim Richardson on his hands making demands left and right, and he's going to intentionally try his luck at getting away with inserting an illegal knuckle pad???:huh
     
  7. PildiLagiMo

    PildiLagiMo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ughhh!... in trying to lie straigthfaced, Capetillo's subconcious actually admitted to having done it all the time.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    i didn't read the whole thing but 1 thing is obvious is that they tried to hide something illegal inside the knuckle pads. Like i've said before its probably to protect the hands rather than add damage to the punches.
     
  9. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    The wraps were either legal or illegal.

    There is no in between.

    They were illegal wraps.

    Period.

    Move on.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    it goes way beyond that
     
  11. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you believe some of the stuff then your as bad as Freddy about this....CSAC would be in hot water because according to what I saw of the hearings they had signed off on the first wrap...

    It was during the second hand being wrapped that Richardson started complaining, it was at that point that the CSAC guy agreed and made them unwrap the first hand... After that Margo was forced to wrap his hands there times before it was done right...Common sense would tell you that what you and freddy are trying to get people to believe isnt true...Why would Richardson catch him doing what he did if he was right there???? Because he wasnt right there until he noticed something wrong, it was at that point that he started to complain at which point the CSAC guy WHOM had already signed off on the first wrap made them unwrap the hand..
     
  12. Holmesy

    Holmesy Interloper Full Member

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    I don't think so - the trainer admitted that they would have been more damaging.

    Even if it's just water in there that's bad enough - punches will be harder because of the extra weight and higher compression - adding water is tantamount to assault.

    It may be worse than that, if any sort of powder that absords water and hardens was present too. But we don't know that yet.
     
  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    whatever you guys wanna talk about bro...:good
     
  14. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    a rematch with mosley not on "MAX GXL" :yep
     
  15. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    GMONTOYA (NOT A MARGO FAN) OVER AT m a x b o x i n g :good