WOW

I actually think the fury that fought klitchko did hit harder than klitchko last nite. Theres a reason klitchko did not want to exchange with fury and yet he didnt quite have the same fear with joshua. Furys a big lump...but the elephant in the room that no one really wants to talk about with fury is the drug allegations.

Furys never been known as a puncher really...but wlad did not want to exchange with him. You dont do what klitchko done against him unless theirs a fear of getting knocked out. Think fury did almost knock him out in the twelfth.

Fury was quality on the nite but has fury ever been that fast...light on his feet. A year down the line hes busted for some sort of drug problem. Makes you wonder. These guys are going from no where to become superstars. Mcdermott arguably beat fury. I understand that hes dedicated himself after. But is it a case of a simple rededication then you can beat anyone even guys that have been guided from the best trainer in years with a training set up outwith a very few places that is unrivalled. A dedicated athlete thats been dedicated from the beginning with amatuer success. Even aj we ve seen how hard he works...theres pretty much nothing else he can give in them training camps. Yet furys away to put 7 stone on...been undedicated. Had a long lay off. Then come back and beat him up. Furys either one of the best talents we,ve seen or something might not be quite right there.

 

what difference does it make it he sparred hughie or tyson, they are all part of the same team just like when you had brophy down sparring with paul and callum smith, joe gallaghers boys were always the best fighters in their division. bawbag billy you really can speak some shite. i get that you are friends of these guys but the way you kiss arse is pretty embarrassing

 

As of now, he ain't. I'll be pleasantly surprised if Fury can comeback mentally and physically and dominate now. Before his melt down, I'd agree with you !

 

You really do come across one sad jealous person
Read what others are saying there more or less agreeing with me, I say what I think rightly or not I don't hide behind a made up name

 

You don't really believe Fury hits as hard as Wlad though Billy do you ?

Fury is many things but a power hitter he has never been, he hits hard because he is a big man I agree but he is not on Wlads level not even close.

He is also still wide open to the overhand right which is why I always picked Haye over Fury and why Joshua beats Fury also.

 

What does Fury do with the Joshua that came out in rounds 5 and 11? That's nothing like anything he has ever faced before..

The Joshua in basically every other round you would expect Fury to deal with, but I don't know what his answer will be when Joshua comes at him. It might even happen sooner if Joshua doesn't respect Fury's power.

Not saying I definitely think Joshua wins it mind. When AJ is more aggressive Fury might be able to clinch and spoil and use his inside-fightingness to good effect.

It would be an intriguing fight, but for me 60-40 in favour of AJ ..

 

People have talked down Fury's power but I believe he has one of the hardest and most effective jabs in the game. He made Chisora knock the fight on the head with that jab.

Saying that, I was massively impressed with the way AJ came out in the 5th and 11th, but he was allowed to do that otherwise he'd have done it in round 1,2,3 etc Klitschko switched off for a moment and his footwork let him down. Coming out like that in the 5th ironically nearly cost him the fight, it gassed him.

 

Guys AJ is a excellent fighter nobody can say otherwise but what I would say is like all the best fighters everything comes of the jab, I beleive fury would take that jab away from him, the fury jab is longer and stronger and this in turn would offset AJ's own work keeping him on the back foot more than he's comfy with, just an assessment

 

thats more like it billy, a sensible post where you use your knowledge to assess the fight and give real reason.

I personally think that deontay wilder give both aj and fury massive problems, deontay has shown in his last few fights that he is no longer as reckless as he was earlier in his career and he def has 1 punch ko power. both aj and fury have shown weakness when being hit and I wonder if they could withstand a right hand from wilder? I'm not so sure but saying that if aj hit wilder clean it could well be lights out too.

I want fury back and want him to do well but the way he is partying and piling on the pounds it really is only a matter of time before a more dedicated boxer who isn't out on the old marching powder teaches him a terrible lesson in the ring and what will hurt more is the fact that there isn't another heavyweight at the minute with Tyson's natural ability

 

That doesn't really work though. Fury is different to Wlad. it isn't as simple as AJ just 'coming out like that' when he wants to. Plus, KD aside I thought Joshua actually lost the 5th.

That fight doesn't change my mind about an AJ-Fury match in the slightest. AJ showed he has more heart than I considered for sure but he was still being outboxed for the most part (on my card at least)

 

lol ditto ... i stuck 10 quid on Wlad by KO,TKO or disqualification with about 30 secs of the 5th round remaining !

 

Personally I see the Fury/Joshua as another 50/50 fight. Yes Fury has the reach, much better feet and ring IQ. However Joshua has the explosive power, and strength advantage. Fury is defo capable of jabbing circles round Joshua for most of the fight however if Joshua catches him (and it doesnt need to be clean) Fury will go down he will get back up time and time again however i feel, UNLESS Joshua catches him clean. I just think that Joshua finishes anyone he catches flush he is just too big.

If Fury comes to the fight in top condition and 100% focused then its a 50/50 maybe edging it to Fury, anything else and Joshua walks thro him i think.

 

And by the same token, Joshua is different to Wlad. Even if Fury manages to bamboozle AJ like he did Wlad, I don't see any scenario where Joshua throws as few punches as Wlad did when faced with Fury's awkwardness. There will be times during AJ / Fury where AJ throws a lot of hard combinations at Fury, and it will be something entirely new for the big guy. The most annoying thing will be if Fury turns up a shadow of the boxer he was in Dusseldorf.

 

Thats what makes it such a good fight. To break up peoples work you use the jab. But in joshuas defence to break up furys performance against klitchko...you put your punches together. Exactly what he ended up doing against wlad. The thing is joshua now knows he can do that even if hes losing. Furys gonna need to be punch perfect. And thats why joshua should start that fight favourite imo.

 

Wlad only threw 25 more punches in the AJ fight than the Fury fight, going by official punch stats. I don't doubt that AJ would still throw a lot more but he's going to be hitting air. But I agree with the last point, if Fury can't get to those levels it'll be a sad affair and then I wouldn't hesitate in picking AJ. All this bravado talk from Fury saying he doesn't need a tune-up would be a terrible idea.