Wrestling vs "submission skills"??

The difference is, good wrestlers tend to be strong and able to take their opponents down to the ground, using ground and pound to get the win. Submission fighting is similar in that you take you opponent down but from there you transition into a submission like an arm bar, leg lock or a choke.

 

Almost always.

 

Not neccesarily, Judo, Sambo, and some more unorthodox stuff like catch wrestling and others are were some fighters learn submissions from.

Wrestling in MMA usually refers to the ability to keep the fight were you want it, on the floor or standing up. But again, some people learn to do this from Judo and Sambo.

 

jiu jitsu guys takedowns are now weere near as good as wrestlers. but they can make the guy tap. also they are sometimes good at GnP but not always. wrestelrs are usauly good at GnP

 

Josh Barnett is a wrestler who is great with subs, it really depends on what type of wrestling you are talking about as Beebs said. You would really be missing a whole lot if you don't take Catch and Greco wrestling into consideration.

As he mentioned, Judo and Sambo are big time submission arts as well. Lesser known can be Hapkido and some other Japanese variations root Karate.

 

Please Please Please everyone there are huge stark differences between wrestling, submission fighter, mma, submission grappling, good grappler, excellent wrestler, etc. This is a favorite topic of mine it makes things so interesting, I love the different terms and it just makes things entertaining. I agree with younghypnotiq that's probably what it means.

 

Welcome aboard GEB, you are right about those distinctions, but you will find that most people who are regulars understand this sort of thing. Not a slight in anyway towards the orginal poster, its a very good question, or you for pointing out; just that the MMA forum regulars are fairly knowledgeable.

 

Hey thanks, I probably should have introduced myself first. Glad to have found this page.:hi:

 

Wrestling is more important in real life.

 

i dont know kinda hard to shoot a double leg on concrete without hurting yourself

 

Wrestling is more than shooting double legs. Getting takedowns from the clinch and maintaining top position when you get the fight to the ground are very important aspects of wrestling.

I remember getting into a fight in the 7th grade and I fought a kid about 4 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter than I am. He was training in wrestling at the local high school. I threw one punch and got arm-thrown and got the **** beat out of me with him basically on top of me with a knee on belly position. Don't underestimate the value of good wrestling in a fight.

 

believe me i understand wrestling is more than a double leg, i wrestled in highschool, but having jiujitsu is way better, we have wrestlers come in for the first time and try to go ape**** trying to take everyone down then they get swept and submitted, for real life having some good boxing or good jiujitsu or both is more than enough and far superior to wrestling, when we have our fighters prepare for their fights we bring in our wrestlers and they imediately start having trouble looking fo rthe takedown and clinch and get a lot more hesitant when hands start flying at their face