Wright v all of Monzon`s title fight opponents, how would he have fared?

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  1. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really think with the way that Winky fought he would not be getting blown out by anyone. I don't see him beating Monzon and I would favor Valdez as well but Winky was to good of a technician to be blown out. He could handle himself.
     
  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    But also, Carlos had that hard jab, and remember that hard right hand was a threat, Wright is not fighting in a video game. Ronald Wright will get caught at some point, the fight would then be over. Carlos knew how to win, not to lose. He had a great ring I.Q. Carlos Monzon is not Felix Trinidad, who is talented, Monzon is better, Wrright was a flash in the pan, Monzon had longevity, has fought all types I am sure.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    No.
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I think he is too.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Winky Wright was Ring rated from 93 until 2009, only excluded in 08 and 94. That is not a flash in the pan.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No, I just think he had a good jab and Monzon got hit by a lot of counter jabs.
     
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  7. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Napoles - wins a shut out against a much smaller man, that was a lightweight until he was 26 years old.

    Griffith - he's the bigger man here and should push Griffith back and outwork the older man

    Briscoe - close fight, Winky would land more but Briscoe probably lands the better shots and more bodyshots

    Valdes - another close fight, Winky lands way more jabs, Valdes more power shots. Winky lands more to the head, Valdes more to the body

    Benevenuti - Benvenuti losses to Monzon was sandwiched between losses to journeymen. He isn't beating a prime Winky
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    That a pretty big rake of the laces across the face at 31s :lol:
     
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  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perhaps that should have featured in the 'Carlos Monzon - If Nothing Else is Working' video :lol:
     
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  10. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's true, a counter jab would be extremely difficult for Monzon to handle. But we are matching him against Winky Wright, not Marvin Hagler. Wright didn't have the type of power to dissuade Monzon for an entire fight.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    :jaja-no:
     
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're right. Winky was a solid technician and this would be enough to see him survive against a higher tier of opponent. In terms of ability, at 154, it would be reasonable to suggest that he's up there, more or less, with the best. He appeared to operate very well at 160, too.

    His limitations, for mine, were that he didn't carry much of a dig and so tended towards that one approach of fighting. Invariably, this was an attempt to control the action from the outside, behind a tight guard and a jab, whilst being sparing with the powershots. To be fair, this served him well over the course of his career against some good opposition.

    I just think that certain of Monzon's opponents would have had enough to takeaway the advantages Wright had benefited from, against those that came at him in straight lines and or just stood, relatively static, within Wright's strike zone. I think this would make opponents like Benvenuti, Griffith, Napoles, as well as Valdes, a danger to him. I also think that Bouttier and Licata would present some problems for Wright. But, in all cases, they'd have to work for it, for sure.
     
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wright wasn't a pure counterpuncher, either, as far as I can recall. He tended to block during an attack; wait for the attack to pause; then fire back, once the coast was clear.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Well said. Every chance Winky lasts the distance in the real world. I think he'd handle Licata and Bouttier where as others are up for discussion.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Good point, but you can't base Ronald Wrights win over Carlos Monzon or being competitive from a video game, that is a toy. But if that is your opinion, so be it.